you’re right I could leverage my kidney, make 100x returns, get 100 more kidneys.
is this how money flows? damn you opened my eyes.
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linear is genuinely purpose-built and you’re probably building on years of their work.
not saying you owe them anything but “f* linear” is such a poor choice of words in the hero.
hope your product is great tho (i personally am not sold on it, 0 faith in the team thanks to the hero).
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no disrespect or whatever but i can smell a badly implemented nextjs app from a mile away. if you’re really seeing that massive of a difference, you did not read nextjs docs.
or maybe you did everything right idk man
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except these look visually worse. atp I’d just move on. also fuck chrome. @heliumbrowser >>>>>
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@heliumbrowser ofc. it's not a question.
altho comet is genuinely really fuckin cool too.
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i wonder how much of the costs are due to misconfigured/overconfigured setups on aws. i mean, aws ui does allow you to shoot yourself in the head.
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why am i seeing @FactoryAI pop off all of a sudden? what’s the root of this hype train
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this looks amazing.
I'm making @wav0ai, an open-source version of this.
still a WIP - wav0.app
github - github.com/fluid-tools/wav0
AI-Native Music Studio. powered by @elevenlabs startup grants.
can't wait to outship you guys.
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one whiff of next 16 with cache components and you will never care about any other react framework again.
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i don’t usually randomly reply to flame but how dumb/whiney are you. their $20/mo plan includes 500 premium requests.
they’re giving it away for free to students cause they just raised funds so this is accounted for. they don’t gotta do jack btw.
if you can spend more, do it. if you cannot, just know 500 premium requests are plenty. you get unlimited tab completions too.
tl,dr; if your usage is really higher than $20 on cursor they it’s 20 dollars you get for free every month on cursor.
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@wav0ai in action.
1. the DAW works.
> needs more support for other audio formats.
Exports are fast, you can even preview the clip visually before you export and get estimated size (think i missed that in the clip, added in the screenshot)
2. clip movement between tracks is extremely snappy and feels natural. automation points automatically transfer relative to their position in the clip. loop state follows as well.
> needs more work on playback/visual sync and event cleanup when splitting/moving clips mid playback.
3. You should not even have to worry about the interface at all unless you want to. prompt and it will work.
> AI SDK + WDK integration otw. watch out.
and best part, aside from optional ai functionality and cloud/realtime persistence (also coming soon), it's all on the browser.
some of you probably already know it's oss cause i won't shut up about it. but those of you new on my acc, check out github.com/fluid-tools/wav0, give it a star if you like it. fund if you're rich.
expect more updates.
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thinking of open-sourcing this app I'm building for vibe-coders, fluid.tools (includes integration w cursor via mcp too). lots to do here.
you can join the waitlist using the link (or feel free to hmu).
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according to some of these self proclaimed saviors of humanity, you gotta pick sides and then constantly make it fit in the same naive worldview as them. applies to everyone.
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there’s an opportunity out here rn to build a really solid visual workflow creator with ai elements and WDK.
who wants to build?
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building @wav0ai cause I wanted a Cursor for my audio workflows. come say hi!
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probably premium domain and the ui is not reflecting that for whatever reason on certain domains.
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cooking a lil something for @inboundemail - what's your current favorite email client? I'll try to go up a notch or match it.
progress so far looks good tho.
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I was not into the notion at all 18 then by 20 I realized aesthetics and well-being in general is 10x worth more for me than I had assumed.
Entirely recomposed mass distribution. Couldn’t recommend more.
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Got a YC pitch event today at 12pm PT. Will be pitching @ConnectDome to other founders. Let’s see how that goes now.
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how else do you expect to avoid free trial abuse? seems like the most straightforward way. it's basically like 2fa. you enter the card, you get free trial, soon as you get it, cancel it.
renew if you like.
what did i miss?
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WAV0 AI Links for you:
- Discord - wav0ai.com/discord
- Github - git.new/wav0
- Sponsor WAV0 - git.new/wav0-sponsor
Live Link - wav0ai.com
@wav0ai in action.
1. the DAW works.
> needs more support for other audio formats.
Exports are fast, you can even preview the clip visually before you export and get estimated size (think i missed that in the clip, added in the screenshot)
2. clip movement between tracks is extremely snappy and feels natural. automation points automatically transfer relative to their position in the clip. loop state follows as well.
> needs more work on playback/visual sync and event cleanup when splitting/moving clips mid playback.
3. You should not even have to worry about the interface at all unless you want to. prompt and it will work.
> AI SDK + WDK integration otw. watch out.
and best part, aside from optional ai functionality and cloud/realtime persistence (also coming soon), it's all on the browser.
some of you probably already know it's oss cause i won't shut up about it. but those of you new on my acc, check out github.com/fluid-tools/wav0, give it a star if you like it. fund if you're rich.
expect more updates.
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Automations + Exports working in @wav0ai
This something that would take anyone without a fully installed DAW forever to do.
And now it’s possible in seconds without any installs, right in the browser.
✦ Automations with zero extra setup. Easily move between tracks (plus it’s context-aware).
✦ Exports working insanely fast.
✦ Real-time Export Previews - easily visualize output, estimated size, etc based on your settings.
Just added support for wav (ofc), flac, aac, ogg. More soon. Next up: tools, libraries, and a better agentic ui.
What should I work on next?
Thinking Sections, Markers, etc for loops makes sense (so you can export just the selected part without adding custom timestamps). Then I’ll share more on the Library UI.
This is really the foundation of a new way to make music. And I’m doing it all in the open (oss).
Keeping at it, I go dumb when I see the vision.
Also, I'm going to use @capso for my screen recordings from now on. If someone wants to help me make a decent demo video, hmu.
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oh also since upgrading to a turborepo setup, quickly made a new landing page too. didn’t push it yet.
what do we work on today @wav0ai?
I’m thinking:
1. 〰️ Project Sections - Create sections, selections, and markers like you do in Logic Pro.
2.🤖 Automation Streamlining - Combine automations (clip fades, volume fades, panning) into a singular ui layer.
3. 🎹 MIDI Support + Quick Sampler - Create midi tracks for any sample. Adjust the sample as you want.
4.💥 Stress Testing - Currently max tracks in a project would be capped at 50. I’ll run an automated test to see how far this can be realistically stretched.
5. 🔊 And then ofc, exports!! (+ some level of audio monitoring to make sure exports aren’t fucked, ever)
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every time i feel i have lesser understanding of the logic flow of my request than the llm, i just stop.
asking it for its thought process, its understanding of my request, and drawing the bridge to a solution is way more effective even tho it takes extra time.
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startups/companies I’d work for if my startup gets cooked-
- @wav0ai
- @wav0ai
- @wav0ai
oh, and did I mention @wav0ai?
the companies i’d work *with* regardless:
- @vercel
- @cursor_ai
- @coderabbitai
- @inboundemail
- @convex
- @tembo
startups / companies i'd def work for if my startup gets cooked
- @autumnpricing
- @better_auth (infra would be lit)
- @incard my bestie is there
- @tembo
- @coderabbitai
- @mintlify
- @convex
inspired by @ay_ushr
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can someone help me recreate a design like pierre.co? i fucking love it.
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shoutout to @GabbyShires btw for putting me in touch with perf papi @kenwheeler. got a lot of useful insights.
experimenting and building on top of that @wav0ai
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because of high likelihood of the context getting poisoned in a 1m window?
and something like /compact works similarly to keep only the relevant context within the window.
Thus for most cases, delivering identical results.
altho a 1m window w something like gpt-5 pro will definitely outperform a smaller window on an open-ended achievable prompt.
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what we building today @wav0ai
♾️ clean library interfaces. dedicated route/sidebars/sheets/drawers/dialogs
♾️ quick generate on the landing
♾️ new /create route - quick generate songs/one-shots/samples. flow into /studio optionally for advanced editing. This would be really neat for beginners and producers tryna save time.
♾️ fully migrate /studio to new daw sdk + react package
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on.wav0ai.com - cooking.
i think i'm gonna go w this one as the landing for wav0.app
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once in a while, yeah. I don’t like socially interacting w most people but even I try getting out there once in a while
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order of business for @wavflip today:
- code quality checks
- cloudfront for s3
- individual track editing controls
- multi-track editor
- wavflip soundpilot ai agent
- brainstorm marketing graphics??
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i wish we could change the instructions for commit message generation in Cursor.
cc @ryolu_
i strongly dislike ai-generated commit messages.
everything is an 'enhancement' or 'refactor'.
its unnecessary jargon and feels stinky
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i was so obsessed w fast navigation back when I was tryna build my first REAL product in 2022, I pre-fetched so aggressively, basically abused tanstack query as a whole async manager in an SPA.
things have changed a bunch since then lol. it’s easy to have fast nav. yes even with RSCs.
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i feel it’d be better value/better use of github actions (at least on my vercel hobby tier projects) if i used a beefed up machine to build and create turbo cache right away so vercel can reuse it and i get faster builds?
builds are already pretty fast but when i have a turbo task depending on builds of other internal packages, it’s hard to get it under 30 seconds overall.
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@wav0ai - AI Native Music Studio, open-sourced at github.com/fluid-tools/wav0
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Shoutout @jordienr for sponsoring WAV0's development. You a real day 1 for this!
Up next week we got a sickk demo incoming with:
- Cloud-synced library and projects (real-time)
- WAV0 AI - Idea to Sound Agent deeply integrated. can't wait for this.
Any contribution means a lot cause this means I get to stay shipping really cool shi at @wav0ai
github.com/sponsors/arthtyag…
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it was a whiteboard interview.
i did get the solution right within a minute or so but expressing it in code with zero code-assist. i fucked up the syntax a whole bunch tho lol.
for no prep, i’d say i did alright. but not my fastest unfortunately.
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not been active cause im cooking. im about to start screaming soon tho.
gm to those this reaches to
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glad to be a part of this!
shipping is honestly more fun when i see others on here relentlessly doing the same.
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made a free v0 template - v0.app/community/wav-0-music…
Whatyu think?
if you scroll a bit on v0.app/templates/landing-pag…, you might find my template lol
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gon be using @opencutapp for the product demo. this is some good shiiiii.
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$200 cursor
$200 gpt pro
$200 cc pro
$200 factory[dot]ai
build for $800 and raise $1M by the time you’re done. ik ik ik it sounds like a joke.
but if you think about it, this is very possible.
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with the mvp for @wavflip (agentic ai for music production) and the db foundations laid, switched to @PlanetScale.
paying $25 just for a very-starter db doesn’t make sense when i get more db-centric features with planetscale for 14 extra
notes:
- for $25 supabase has other really good utilities at a slightly higher cap.
- I won’t use any of the extra supabase stuff tho. cause aside from db, all other infra is better off in aws. i don’t wanna manage an rds either and planetscale would definitely still be a far more ergonomic choice.
tl,dr; couple places you shouldn’t cheap out on for a good product dev (iteration, ux, feedback) workflow. good db, good deployment process (@vercel).
p.s sharing the landing design too. rolling out and updating the app next week.
dm/reply for early-access.
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how is vercel so goated
We’re shipping AI Elements for visual Workflow builders.
Building agents visually is a cute idea, but only if you can eject to code, use multiple models & agents, and remain platform agnostic.
That’s what @aisdk gets you.
ai-sdk.dev/elements/examples…
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crucial refactor on @wav0ai that straightens things out.
1. 〰️ Enhanced curve selection for the envelope editor (automations).
2. 🎧 Updated automation lane with better curve definitions and improved automation handling.
3. ⚡️ Refined state management in DAW SDK for better performance and maintainability.
some more to do before moving on to phase 2. changes active on the refactor/daw branch currently.
github.com/fluid-tools/wav0
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guys i made looping work in my web daw. pretty happy.
so far got this done too:
- multiple clips on a single track, cross-fade by default on overlay.
- trim from either ends.
next up adding splitting. then I got sum crazy to show.
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this is how I went from Y to Z💰💰💰💰
Y was the initial 0 mark.
Z was another 0 mark.
stop building, start billing.
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do you just get to building the first draft of an idea in your brain? or do you take time and do some planning/pre-processing on it?
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what’s the essential setup for a monorepo you’re about to open-source?
There’s already a bunch of cursor rules I made. Thinking I should ask Cursor to use the rules and make a contribution + setup guide.
Then slap some assets, clean up the readme, and make @wavflip open-source.
been working on it for a bit. so many more use-cases it supports than I thought with the same setup.
for a product like this, might need to write docs/blog showcasing examples with some additional ways to juice it.
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they have striking parallels to IG “models”. the worldview is on a different realm but it’s such a small subset of the operating realm, it’s laughable.
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feel this would require emulation/sandboxed environment + all the overhead and lag.
it would be better to recreate a plugin for the web. that’s what my plan with @wav0ai is eventually too.
a standard web music plugin component. idk who’s gonna adopt it. but i will. and i will dogfood it + let users publish/install plugins.
is there a way to use VST plugins in the web?
there's gotta be some cracked guy that built a port for this
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im building @wav0ai full time and i got a shawty im traveling an hour to see. am i cooked?
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need v0 bonus credits? - v0.app/ref/GQ0WWU
get $40 in total credits when you subscribe to the $20 plan. that's some insaneeeee value you get.
just applied!
btw if you’re looking for a quickstart on your landing page, this should have you covered - v0.app/templates/wav-0-music…
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i rebuilt the entire apple music library client in nextjs app router and it’s almost instant. it was slow asf before I started using the patterns they clearly mention in the docs.
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wav0 started as it is only 2 weeks ago but the idea had its different phases months back.
more specifically, last year, I tried making an Apple Music client with AI recommendations directly plugged in to the UI as well as one-click sample inspection.
never got around to releasing it out of alpha but it made me realize how much I love making music and music-related tech.
been grinding on wav0 for months.
audacity for the web + ai.
just shipped instant playback, auto crossfades, volume automation with s-curves. keyboard shortcuts that feel right if you know any daw.
open source at github.com/fluid-tools/wav0
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i had this urge to create a project. cause i need this for wav0. building it rn. will share soon.
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never force push on the git branch. you wont do that to your girl, now would you? tbh wrong platform to send this thought out.
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richer exports. also fast asf. i love this shit so much. @wav0ai - pushing these updates v soon.
if you think this is cool, wait for what's coming up next.
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