Research faculty @ImagineENPC. Also affiliated with @Oxford_VGG and @PerceivingSys. PhD from @inria_paris.
Paris, Ile-de-France
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For my rejected cvpr2020 submission, where I’m using a cvpr2019 paper’s method, the reviewer criticizes the cvpr2019 method and suggests using a cvpr2020 paper... For my eccv2020 submission, I’m planning to use an eccv2022 paper just to make sure.
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My long-standing dream coming true: a generative model for 3D human actions. Variable-length SMPL sequences are synthesized with a Transformer-based VAE conditioned on actions.
Action-Conditioned 3D Human Motion Synthesis with Transformer VAE
pdf: arxiv.org/pdf/2104.05670.pdf
abs: arxiv.org/abs/2104.05670
project page: imagine.enpc.fr/~petrovim/ac…
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Hello world
Today we welcome to @gulvarol as a new researcher at @ImagineEnpc
(and congratulate her for her @ELLISforEurope PhD award!)
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I was lucky to share this HDR day with many colleagues and friends 🥰 can’t thank enough to jury members for making space in their busy schedule, their wonderful talks, the insightful questions, and all the kind words. Some cheerful moments attached.
Gül Varol is defending her Habilitation today, and she's using it to organize a workshop with an Avengers list of speakers: gulvarol.github.io/hdr/index…
There's a zoom link, hopefully it will work. Starts 9am CET
(Live thread on 🦋)
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Proud to announce only 1 person came to our poster today :)
"Read and Attend: Temporal Localisation in Sign Language Videos" will be presented at #CVPR2021
⏰ Paper Session 12: Fri 3-5:30am PT / 6-8:30am ET / 11am-1:30pm BST / 12-2:30pm CET
🚩 robots.ox.ac.uk/~vgg/researc…
by @gulvarol, @LiliMomeni, @SamuelAlbanie, @afourast, Andrew Zisserman
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Looking forward to the next physical @ELLISforEurope gathering to celebrate this :)
Congratulations @gulvarol! ELLIS Ph.D. Award 2020 for ” Learning Human Body and Human Action Representations from Visual Data” supervised by @CordeliaSchmid & I.Laptev #prAIrie chairs @ENS_ULM @inria_paris @CNRS @psl_univ @institutpasteur @Univ_Paris ellis.eu/news/ellis-phd-awar…
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Why do people complain about thesis writing so much? You finally get to write your honest thoughts (without the worry that reviewers will pick on the limitations of your method), read papers from 1980s, write without vspaces and page limits. It's been stimulating and fun for me.
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Special thanks to @david_picard for the introduction to computer vision crash course for high schoolers, the 16 very-involved mentors (listed on the webpage), the volunteers taking good care of our 42 guests, and the association @FillesEtMaths @femmesetmaths. #ICCV2023
#ICCV2023 is organizing a high school outreach event on Wed. Oct. 4th. Those with demos/posters on Wed. please share with them your work and the excitement about our AMAZING community.
sites.google.com/view/iccv-2…
Thank you @Michael_J_Black @akanazawa and @gulvarol for organizing!
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Fully agree. Work has been so relaxed post-tenure. And one reason I was not sharing this is not to get bullied on social media :) At the same time, I want to encourage people to consider academia. So here it is.
Spotted on Reddit: an ML-adjacent faculty who seems to have a very healthy and relaxed approach to work and life. Why don't we hear about more people like this? teddit.net/r/MachineLearning…
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No jetlag, no flight, no packing for ICCV at home in Paris! It will be a busy but memorable week. You can find me at artificial social intelligence workshop (mon 10:25), 3D content creation workshop (mon 11:55), hands in action workshop (mon 14:10), and WiCV workshop (tue 13:40).
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Finished my 8 cvpr reviews 3 weeks in advance (hooray). 2020 resolution: less last-minute stress.
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It has been a real pleasure working with @MathisPetrovich. With constant positivity and great technical skills came a very productive and enjoyable PhD journey! Consider this my public recommendation, whoever hires him soon is very lucky :)
Congratulations to @MathisPetrovich on successfully defending his PhD. This work pioneered the use of transformers for modeling 3d human motion. ACTOR, TEMOS, TEACH, TMR, and more. Great work!! 🎊🥂🎉 Co-advisor: the awesome @gulvarol!
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So nice to see this, thanks for sharing! I wish all the 73% could do it. Otherwise, the never-ending illusion when being exposed only to the accepted papers...
0 papers accepted #ECCV2020. Still very proud of the two papers we had under review, and I certainly feel I can take summer holidays as well... if it wasn't for our workshop at ECCV, release of EPIC-KITCHENS-100 dataset and the brilliant team I lead - small and beautiful ;-)
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Hiring #ELLISPhD in 2025. Apply by Nov 15 using the central portal.
The #ELLISPhD application portal is now open! Apply to top #AI labs & supervisors in Europe with a single application, and choose from different areas & tracks.
The call for applications: ellis.eu/news/ellis-phd-prog…
Deadline: 15 November 2024
#PhD #PhDProgram #MachineLearning #ML
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Text-to-motions trained with BABEL, handling an infinite sequence of actions. To be presented tomorrow by @_nikos_athan at #3DV2022 @3DVconf. Code is available.
TEACH: Temporal Action Composition for 3D Humans
abs: arxiv.org/abs/2209.04066
project page: teach.is.tue.mpg.de/
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We have released the code and data for our #CVPR2019 paper on hand-object reconstruction. Joint work with @yanahasson and colleagues. Come to the poster this afternoon! di.ens.fr/willow/research/ob…
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In our #CVPR2021 paper with @LiliMomeni, @SamuelAlbanie, @afourast and Andrew Zisserman, we show that temporal localisation of signs emerges from the attention mechanism when trained for sequence prediction on noisy subtitles. @CVPR robots.ox.ac.uk/~vgg/researc… piped.video/watch?v=mIobIPtf…
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5 years ago Margaret has been my mentor at WiCV. I still remember every single advice to this date. The same morning I attended her talk at the VQA workshop. I was really inspired. Upsetting to see how a role model to many is being treated. Please let her peacefully do her job.
Gday world.
Entering week 5 of being locked out of work after witnessing something very wrong, wrought by my superiors, targeting @timnitGebru.
Exhausted by the endless degradation to save face for the Upper Crust in tech at the expense of minorities' life-long careers.
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5 years ago I met @timnitGebru when co-organizing the next WiCV. After a few months of virtual meetings when we first met at the conference, it felt like we have known each other for a long time. I am constantly impressed by her achievements. Please let her peacefully do her job.
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We're welcoming submissions for our #ECCV2020 workshop on Sign Language from a wide range of topics: hand/body pose, lipreading, machine translation, SL datasets... Still a long way to go before we can solve SL recognition/translation/production with CV/ML slrtp.com/
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It's time to stop coding and call it a day when you cannot correctly type a function after a few trials. My favorite is squzee(), reminds me of scusi.
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We are delighted to announce the full #ECCV2020 SLRTP workshop keynote lineup: @LaleAkarun, Matt Huenerfauth, Oscar Koller, Christian Vogler @Krischi, @BencieWoll slrtp.com
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I like this workshop title! I will give a relatively unusual talk about past/present/future of video understanding at 11:25 (Summit 335). winvu.github.io/cvpr-24/
Another talk about the AutoAD trilogy at the multimodal workshop at 17:00 (Summit 320). mula-workshop.github.io/
What is next in video understanding? Let's discuss tomorrow, 8.30AM-1PM, Summit 335-336 @CVPR. We'll have keynotes from @angelayao101, @MakarandTapaswi, @JitendraMalikCV, @ryoo_michael and @gulvarol. More info at winvu.github.io/cvpr-24/
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Special thanks to my students, past and present 😍 and entire Imagine @ImagineEnpc for the great lab environment, and for being there 😊 last but not least, thanks to the one-day beautiful snow happening on this day ❄️
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Using @GoogleColab this year for assignments really simplified our life for grading. Hopefully it was more fun for students as well. Less time wasted for installation problems and equal hardware resources for everyone (even free access to GPUs).
Get ready for a better grading and feedback experience with @GoogleColab! Grading Colab Jupyter notebook submissions is now as easy as grading @GoogleDocs, #GoogleSlides and PDF's 🙌. Learn more about how you can use @GoogleColab: goo.gl/LpdxsD
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We are live at piped.video/watch?v=OPU3XxqP…
Tired of obsessing over state-of-the-art results? Looking for hypothesis-based science in AI?
Join our #NeurIPS2020 workshop: “The pre-registration experiment: an alternative publication model for ML research" - from 09:15am (EST) on Dec 11th.
Details at preregister.science
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Virtual conferences take out all the fun, and adds more work. I am trying to go back home from the after-work sign language course in the evening, to make it before my talk at an #ICCV2021 workshop at night… Apologies in advance for my lack of energy.
Really hoping that this is our last year of virtual conferences! #ICCV2021
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I’ll show lots of videos on human motion synthesis :)
Our HBHA workshop on human body, hands and activities from egocentric and multi-view cameras will take place at #ECCV2022 on Monday (Oct.24) 2pm-6pm (GMT+3)! Don’t miss out the invited talks from 5 wonderful speakers @dimadamen @gulvarol @RehgJim @kkitani and Vincent Lepetit!
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I highly recommend this event which brings together talented and conscious computer vision researchers.
Call for submissions! The 6th Women in Computer Vision Workshop (WiCV) at #CVPR2019 invites all vision researchers to submit short papers and attend the workshop. There will be talks, posters, a panel discussion and dinner! More info: wicvworkshop.github.io/
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Plenty of opportunities for collaborations with this exciting research project:
We are looking for a research intern (willing to continue for a PhD). The project will be co-supervised by @gulvarol (@ImagineENPC) and by Andrew Zisserman (@Oxford_VGG). More at: imagine.enpc.fr/~varolg/jobs…
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Join us at 2pm (GMT+1) for the live session of the #SLRTP workshop at #ECCV2020 with Q&A sessions for the keynotes and accepted papers. You can already submit questions here forms.gle/9CznMCVyc5DULpyL9 Find the full schedule at slrtp.com
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On wednesday, we will welcome high school students to the world of computer vision🤩
I will also be at poster presentations for TMR, SINC, AutoAD-II papers on thursday, and SyViC on friday!
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Glad to welcome 21 female high-school students for two days full of maths and informatics at @inria_paris. Special thanks to @BachFrancis for a great introduction to machine learning. #FillesetMaths #RJM #Animaths
1ère conférence du RJM : Francis Bach, chercheur @inria_paris, nous parle de #MachineLearning #IA !
Comment une machine peut-elle apprendre ?
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Ok, I did not see that coming. Did an emergency review despite not signing up as an emergency reviewer. People who do not submit their reviews on time should be banned from submitting papers. Everybody is equally busy. (sorry for the frustration)
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Not sure about being an "established" member, but I have a lot to tell! Join the networking session on Tuesday if you want to hear from me and @SamuelAlbanie about our survival tips for young academics. Disclaimer: we have only survived for a short time for now. #CVPR2021
During #CVPR2021 there will be three different curated networking socials where students will have an opportunity to meet established members of the vision community. Check out the list of researchers scheduled for each of the sessions here: cvpr2021.thecvf.com/node/275
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Great pleasure to have @tolga_birdal on our last day before lockdown :) One of the rare moments when I didn’t feel stupid during a talk, and actually understood things.
Dissecting point networks and talking about 3D capsules with @ImagineEnpc of @EcoledesPonts. A warm thanks to @gulvarol, @david_picard, @MichaelRamamon, Mathieu Aubry, and all the IMAGINE members for the fruitful, stimulating discussions.
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Ask me anything on Wednesday in New Orleans!
Our #CVPR2022 Social Activities Chairs have created a speed-mentoring event curated for our student attendees.
Details: cvpr2022.thecvf.com/student-…
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According to workshop participants (who mostly failed the Video101 quiz 😢), next in video understanding is multimodality and longer videos. At least better participation than in my live polls in lectures. #CVPR2024
Our last "What is Next is Video Understanding" #CVPR2024 keynote, @gulvarol, giving us a Video 101 quiz
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Had a great time at @M2lSchool in Milan. Thanks to all participants who made the lecture super interactive!
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Big congratulations to @gulvarol for her successful habilitation on a snowy day in Paris. I’ve had the pleasure of collaborating with Gül over many years and highly recommend her to prospective students. She is an outstanding advisor who is technically deep and hands on.
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One takeaway from our discussion was that many of us share similar struggles in research while feeling lonely. Hopefully these kinds of platforms help that a little by bringing people together.
Time for our two social guests of the day: @gulvarol and @DocXavi who will talk about "How to peacefully research away from competition" and "Sign language with deep learning"
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A simple and flexible model to handle jointly image and video inputs for end-to-end retrieval:
Separation of effort in the image and video retrieval communities is suboptimal - they share a lot of overlapping info!
Check out our NEW model for visual-text retrieval, easily trains on *both* images and videos jointly, setting new SOTA results!
arxiv.org/abs/2104.00650
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One more month to participate in these #ECCV2022 challenges ⏳We are looking forward to numbers better than the baselines!
We are very excited to announce the SLRTP workshop #ECCV2022 @eccvconf Challenge is open and accepting submissions. Join us to push the boundaries on 3 sign language understanding tasks: sign recognition, subtitle alignment and sign spotting! slrtp-2022.github.io/
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See you soon in Tel Aviv!
#ECCV2022 is hosting an in-person student “speed mentoring event” on Oct 25 and 26!
The registration form is now available.
eccv2022.ecva.net/program/st…
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Please check FAQs page before sending emails, the page is regularly updated. eccv2024.ecva.net/Conference…
Good luck with your submissions!
Planning on submitting a paper to #ECCV2024? Check out our Submissions Guide.
eccv2024.ecva.net/Conference…
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I do this since sometime and couldn’t recommend more. Be proud of saying no.
1) Keep a 'no' list - a catalogue of all of the opportunities you decline each year and look for ways to make it longer. Review at the end of each year to reinforce what a good idea it was to decline. Repeat. 2) As much as possible, only work with people you really like.
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People from all genders are invited to attend. See you tomorrow!
Looking forward to tomorrow's #WiCV workshop at #ECCV2018 #ECCV18 in Munich! We hope to see you ALL in the afternoon (Room N1090). Find here the schedule of the talks, the posters and the panel. More details at: wicvworkshop.github.io
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Let's not talk about AI before we fix CMT problems please... #ECCV2018
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Looking forward to meeting everyone in Accra next week.
Announcing our 2nd Weakly Supervised Computer Vision workshop @DeepIndaba and call for papers.
⏰ Submission: 13 Aug
🗓️ Event: 8 Sep
🏆 Best paper award: 1K EUR prize pool from @nvidia @GoPro
🎙️ Speakers: @mcaron31 @Steph_lat @gulvarol M. Salzmann
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Somewhat poorly advertised MS program in Paris: MVA master-mva.com/ is a 1-year research Master's, with (mostly English) courses across Maths, Vision, Learning, and an internship (that can lead to PhD). Applications open May 1 - June 30 for 2025-2026. Grants possible.
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Our #ECCV20 poster session is very quiet. Come join us now to learn and give feedback for our work on sign language recognition. Code&models also just released robots.ox.ac.uk/~vgg/researc…. Here with @SamuelAlbanie @LiliMomeni and Andrew Zisserman.
You are warmly invited to join us at #ECCV for our poster at 14:00 today (UK time) or midnight...
“BSL-1K: Scaling up co-articulated sign language recognition using mouthing cues" with @gulvarol, @LiliMomeni, T. Afouras, J.S Chung, N. Fox & A. Zisserman
piped.video/watch?v=oOUhsxcU…
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MotionFix will be presented in Tokyo soon. @Michael_J_Black and @_nikos_athan will be there, talk to them! Unless I make a crazy last-minute decision, I will be missing out.
I'm going to attend @SIGGRAPHAsia in Tokyo. We have two papers:
MotionFix: Text-Driven 3D Human Motion Editing
motionfix.is.tue.mpg.de/inde…
PuzzleAvatar: Assembly of Avatar from Unconstrained Photo Collections
puzzleavatar.is.tue.mpg.de/
I look forward to seeing people there!
Coauthors: @yuliangxiu @_nikos_athan @gulvarol @dimtzionas @yufei_ye Alpar Cseke, Markos Diomataris, Zhen Liu
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My feelings a few days before the defense: "Post-doc me now" by @neuroyoutube piped.video/watch?v=whreNeJG…
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The thing I missed the most about going to the office shouldn’t have been printing papers. Yes, not good for the environment, luckily I don’t read much, impossible to keep up with the literature anyways.
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One more week before the submission deadline! @WiCVworkshop provides funding for accepted abstracts to participate #ECCV2018 in Munich. Please spread the word.
Call for submissions! The 5th Women in Computer Vision Workshop (WiCV) at #ECCV2018 invites all vision researchers to submit their work and attend to our workshop. More info: wicvworkshop.github.io/ECCV2…
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Deadline for proposals approaching: 17 September.
The @NeurIPSConf pre-registration workshop is back!
Deadline for *proposals*: 17 September.
For details: preregister.science
Co-organised with the wonderful @SamuelAlbanie, João Henriques, @alexhdezgcia, @doughty_hazel and @gulvarol.
Follow this space for updates.
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If you need annotation for your vision projects, it’s very probable VIA is what you are looking for:
Watch the talk given by Abhishek Dutta on the VGG Image Annotator: piped.video/watch?v=WNgHy2hI…!
VIA: robots.ox.ac.uk/~vgg/softwar…
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It was inspiring to meet animators and experts from other disciplines at this event as part of the Animation Film Festival! Thanks @MarcChristie4 for inviting and encouraging me to give a (recorded!🙈) talk in French :)
Les conférences sur l'iIA générative du Festival National du Cinéma d'Animation sont en ligne :
3dvf.com/conferences-sur-les…
@creative_seeds @FNFA_afca
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Grenoble is always a good idea
Registration is open for a workshop we organize in Grenoble on AI for robotics on Nov. 15th+16th!
Speakers are M. Hebert @CordeliaSchmid @davsca1 @gulvarol @dchaplot @oyaceliktutan @Jan_R_Peters @m_wulfmeier @OlivierSigaud @LaureSoulier @haosu_twitr N. Obin S. Calinon etc.
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The conference, presentation, workshop, meetings, parties are over. Now is time to relax in Hawaii. #CVPR2017
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Had a great time with this team, very much recommended:
(1/N) **HIRING ALERT** Our team at @GoogleAI, led by @CordeliaSchmid, is hiring a full time Research Scientist, as well as PhD interns, to be based in Grenoble. The mission of our team is to learn high-level visual representations for video understanding ...
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I’m always thinking 20% of computer vision research is probably spent for reshaping the tensors to the right conventions. Even worse for videos, all permutations of NTCHW.(Probably the remaining time goes to data pre-processing🙄)
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Please do not suggest workshops though. It's not clear what "this paper is better suited for a workshop" means, vaguely criticizing both the paper and the workshops.
#ReviewerGuidelines #ICCV2021 #Day8_of_40
"If you think the paper is out of scope for ICCV, clearly explain why in the review & suggest other publication venues. However, unless area mismatch is extreme, you should keep an open mind. We want a diverse set of good papers."
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Paris decided to start a new public bus line from home to the office towards the end of my PhD. Almost as fast as biking.👏
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I am a proud mentee :) Congratulations @guerrera_desesp !
I am a proud husband! Today, @guerrera_desesp received the young researcher award at #Eurographics 2020! piped.video/watch?v=q69tXLQc…
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We are experimenting with the pre-registration publication model for machine learning through our #NeurIPS2020 workshop! Submit your proposal by Oct 7 to practice the separation between hypothesis generation and hypothesis testing. preregister.science/
Upset at the latest #NeurIPS2020 reviews? Interested in an alternative publication model for machine learning research? Looking for hypothesis-based science in AI? 👩🔬
Check out and submit to the preregister.science workshop at NeurIPS. #SCIENCE!
Deadline: Oct 7. More info 👇
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Drop by our poster this morning, happy to chat about tons of unsolved vision&language problems.
Come say hi at #CVPR23
Will be presenting the project behind WhisperX 😎🎬
AutoAD: Movie Description in Context. June 22, Thu AM
(Highlight, Poster 234).
We train a model to automatically generate audio descriptions
robots.ox.ac.uk/~vgg/researc…
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A great opportunity:
We are hiring a research fellow! Domain is open: Computer Vision, Machine Learning, Robotics, Photogrammetry... More details at:
imagine-lab.enpc.fr/jobs/ @EcoledesPonts Please spread the word.
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Apply by July 20th! Hope to see you in Paris.
✈️ICCV'23 DEI grant is now open✈️
iccv2023.thecvf.com/diversit…
We're supporting students from communities that do not traditionally attend ICCV through registration and travel support.
Apply by July 20th 2023 (anywhere on earth)!! #ICCV2023
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The nice thing with the virtual sign language class is that you can mute yourself and still communicate <3
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MotionFix was one of those fun, challenging, long-term projects. Happy to share the outcome. Hopefully it will lead to new works on motion editing, there is a lot to be done. @_nikos_athan et al. prepared a nice page to browse our dataset, check it out at motionfix.is.tue.mpg.de/expl…
📝 MotionFix accepted at @SIGGRAPHAsia 2024!
(a) We introduce a new dataset for Text-driven 3D human motion editing MotionFix.
(b) We train a diffusion model TMED to edit a motion according to an edit text.
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The day before #CVPR2018 review deadline being more tiring than the paper submission deadline.
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Feels like covid days, deadlining from home. Strike the day before, and the lab is closed the day of the deadline due to public holiday... We observe significant drop in performance when experimenting with the absence of deadline pizzas.
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"Learning from synthetic humans" on arxiv! arxiv.org/abs/1701.01370 Here are the segmentation and depth results: bit.ly/2jitbAo
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I like the friendly error message from #torch: "Not enough memory. Buy new RAM!"
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@Michael_J_Black, @captnloic, @david_picard, Mathieu Aubry @ImagineEnpc, @SamuelAlbanie, @dlarlus, Hakan Bilen, Olivia Wiles, @sonatbaltaci, @Lucas__Ventura,
Syrine Kalleli, @vannguyen_ng, Nacim Bouia, @Sagar_Vaze, @zgq1879
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Such a nice experience mentoring a high school girl who codes, explaining her what machine learning is <3 #girlswhocode #gwc
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Looking forward to it.
Our next #meetup is already out!
📊@gulvarol from @Inria Human Body Extraction from Images
📈@amy8492 from @CriteoAILab DataViz 101: Data is beautiful, please don’t ruin it!
💰Salary negotiation workshop w/@ncernecka
📍@Meritis
🗓March 12, 2019
meetu.ps/e/GlccL/vpjgP/a
#wimlds
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It was great to see you all! @akanazawa @Michael_J_Black @GerardPonsMoll1 Thanks to all the 3DPW organizers for the efforts to standardize protocols in 3D pose estimation!
Weird to start ECCV in PT 😅 but our first 3DPW challenge workshop is happening soon at 3pm CEST(timezone is confusing)! Find out what method won and hear from the fantastic line of speakers! virtualhumans.mpi-inf.mpg.de…
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Mathis makes things work, check his demo to test our text-to-motion retrieval models, and keep an eye on him to hire when he graduates :) Work w/
@Michael_J_Black
#ICCV2023
Hi everyone,
I am excited to present TMR at ICCV 2023 @ICCVConference!
Feel free to come to my poster session (this morning Thursday 5th, poster 001 Room Foyer Sud).
Check out my webpage for more info about this work: mathis.petrovich.fr
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We had a fun discussion on impostor syndrome. Thanks @WiMLDS_Paris for organizing #WiMLDSParis meetups!
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See Slide 12 :) Do NOT fill with “See weaknesses above”. docs.google.com/presentation… . And see the "?" button on CMT :)
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I receive review invite for a paper I already read in detail by taking notes, with so many question marks!👍 Now, I cannot find my notes...👎
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I'll be giving credit to this picture in tomorrow's first CV lecture of the semester if you don't mind :)
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