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@0xMari0 is the founder of
@getstableapp, a consumer savings app built on DeFi that
@aave labs acquired and is now scaling as Aave App.
Mario was a machine learning engineer at Meta before leaving to build in crypto. Stable let everyday users earn DeFi yields without needing to understand the technology underneath, and he grew it to 10,000 users through the Alliance DAO accelerator before joining Aave as VP of Product.
The Aave App is a consumer savings and spending product designed for the 4 billion people worldwide who use fintech products but have never used DeFi. It offers stable savings rates, balance protection insured up to $1 million per customer.
Behind it sits Aave V4 with a hub and spoke lending model, Aave Horizon for real world assets, and Aave Pro for regulated deposits and withdrawals.
Mario's conversation with
@dr3wrogers:
3:30 - From machine learning at Meta to building on stablecoins
6:05 - Alliance DAO and his first introduction to Aave
8:05 - How he's building for users who've never made an onchain transaction
9:49 - 10,000 users, $2,500 average balances, and what Stable learned
12:27 - The fintech test for crypto products
14:35 - Aave's evolution from ETH Lend to V4
17:20 - How the hub and spoke model changes onchain lending
18:57 - Why DeFi hasn't added net new users since the last bull cycle
22:01 - What Aave App offers everyday users worldwide
23:55 - The card strategy: earning yield until the moment you spend
26:52 - Why variable rates confused everyday users and the fix
29:18 - Multi-chain vaults and abstracting gas fees
31:10 - Why more education won't fix user trust
32:38 - Aave Horizon: real world assets as lending collateral
36:19 - Founder mentality inside a large protocol
38:46 - Rewriting Stable's codebase while running out of money
41:53 - 12 month vision for Aave App and V4
Episode 0051. Presented to you by
@Altitude