Low intervention fine cider maker/silvopasture orchardist/wild apples/regenerative ag/dry farming/long term thinking 'be an apple boi amongst scythe bros'
Angels Camp, CA
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As a very small niche alcohol producer I am here to tell you that there are, in fact, very strict packaging & labeling regulations for anything alcoholic.
Like at a certain point the dumb actually is your fault & no one can help you
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I WILL ARGUE ABOUT EVERY FUCKING ONE OF THESE
AS A CIDERMAKER I NEED YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT APPLES EXIST ON A TRIPLE OR QUADRUPLE AXIS PLOT NOT A GODDAMN TART/SWEET LINE
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I am begging everyone to consider the counterintelligence value of having a deeply classified program document saying "we can see obelisks on ancient mars" during the height of the Cold War
The CIA publishes the craziest stuff on their website.
"Oh yeah we had professional remote viewers, yeah, we asked them to go visit Mars one million years ago. What did they see? Pyramids, obelisks, a dying elder race looking for a new home. Anyway its declassified now."
ALT https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/cia-rdp96-00788r001900760001-9.pdf
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There are no GMO grapes approved for sale, this effect is typically accomplished by spraying Gibberelic Acid (a plant hormone) on the young cluster to drive up grape size. Sometimes they'll also use Forchlorfenuron, a synthetic hormone. So this is a 'Roid grape not a GMO grape
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It is impossible to overstate how much you should not do this
Damn, I wasn't ready for how this would feel. We didn't have a camcorder, so there's no video of me with my mom. I dropped one of my favorite photos of us in midjourney as 'starting frame for an AI video' and wow... This is how she hugged me. I've rewatched it 50 times.
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The problem in the OP is that despite EXTREMELY CLEAR & OBVIOUS LABELING, the person approaches consumer branding as a functional illiterate. They're not *reading* the label they're *seeing* logos & filling in the blanks
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Craig's Bond is a man barely maintaining a veneer of sophistication over his self-destructive tendencies & his nature as a blunt instrument for his state. From a characterization perspective it's very appropriate that his suit looks like fabric stuffed with muscle & broken glass
Compare that to this opening scene of Spectre. Daniel Craig is wearing Tom Ford, adjusted for him, no doubt, but still made according to the designer's vision, not Craig's body. Despite Craig doing less expressive movements, Craig's suit is fighting against him the entire time.
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The clear plastic PET beverage can patent was granted in 2015 to a Polish packaging mfg company, this dude did nothing but pay a Beverage Contact Packer to license the patent & fill it with liquid designed in the co-packer's lab
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I consider these to be shamefully eliding but still more accurate starting points than that utter trash
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Every single label we make takes a minimum of multiple weeks of back & forth review before approval, with the government typically forcing us to *remove* information about production techniques and ingredients, making the label less useful and often borderline misleading
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This is why OP can look at a label with JACK DANIEL'S in seventy point font and Tennessee Whiskey in fifty point and 7.0%ABV in 65 point and still not *read* because simply *seeing* CocaCola turned their brain off
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Virtually every major vertical farming co has collapsed or restructured over the last 2 years as even the dumbest VCs have realized the insurmountable economic & thermodynamic realities of the concept.
🌱Vertical Farming is about to change dramatically our relationship to food, agriculture, land, and rural areas, as it replaces traditional farming:
It's superior in dozens of very important ways and just has one obstacle: economics, but they're improving every day
Thread 🧵
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Crossed Bloody Butcher corn with a purple popcorn for two years annnnd yeah, I think we have black popcorn now
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The insidious thing about this kind of illiteracy is that it creeps in at the edges via cognitive laziness. Our brains love to pattern match to save effort!
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The other day i was chatting with a guy who did commercial demolition & he told me one of his friends was killed when they didn't strap a concrete window cutout correctly & the 1 ton slab fell 3 stories & cut him in half. In *construction* they were back at work next day
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The replies to this all suck, you don't challenge the frame of the Glengarry guy with your own frame, you neg him within *his own frame*
"Sounds like I oughta get out of here & learn from the guy who sold it to you"
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"Wow that's so salacious and interesting i can't *not* report obelisks on mars to my handlers!" It's an information honey pot, FFS how are people this oblivious
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1) make up some totally banana-bears sci fi bullshit with distinct characteristics
2) move the document through various groups of personnel
3) wait for leaks
4) (optional) wait for penetration attempts, identify hitherto unknown agents
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Can someone who uses shipping containers on their farm/ homestead explain to me WHY NO ONE EVER PAINTS THEM TO MATCH AND LOOK LESS COMPLETELY THRASHED?!?!
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>fast
>responsive
>hierarchical
>relied on user literacy instead of search algo quality
>symbols haven't been de-greebled into uselessness
>ad free
>discoverable
Feel like pure shit I want her back
looks like ass to me. Are people being contrary, or is it zoomers romanticising it because it's from before their time?
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Tfw someone at a party says something related to your esoteric Special Interests & you reply with a little more depth in a bid for connection & conversation & then you see their face freeze as they realize you & everyone within earshot is about to identify them as a poseur
Reading books is now a waste of time.
AI reasoning models can distill key insights and tell you exactly how to implement them based on everything they know about you.
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"Vertical farming" is the perfect litmus test for whether you're talking to a thinking being or an eregore. The average 10 story building holds about 4 acres of floor area.
Humanity farms 4.5 BILLION acres. We just need to build uhhhhhh a billion ten story farm towers!
desalination, vertical farming, and yes, even sustainable jet fuel are all technologies that literally exist *today*, the constraint is that they are extremely energy intensive, and the premise of the book is that we need to build an abundant supply of clean energy
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OKAY BY POPULAR REQUEST LET'S GET INTO THIS!
The first issue with the chart is that it puts Tart and Sweet at opposite ends of a spectrum, when in fact they're two separate axes.
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Wow yeah it's just half a can somehow they sold half a can with no back to it a can with no other label space just half a can
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Every week or so I get a tasting room visitor who doesn't know what "ABV" means, btw, and at a certain point there's just a limit to how much curriculum I can put on a label and you should probably think about your world more
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Cognitive security reminder: a huge amount of what you see on socials is not real & originated in an info ops farm overseas. A huge amount of what *is* real on socials is nevertheless a 2nd or 3rd order effect of that fact, and it's on us to break that ratchet
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The existence of foods that are both high sugar & high acidity can be confirmed by a cursory glance at the average grocery candy aisle
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It's true for fruit too! Leaving citrus aside & returning to apples, Dolgo & Wickson are some of my favorite examples of searingly high acid paired with candy-like sweetness
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Hahaha, new class action against Diageo just filed bc lab tests on Casamigos & Don Julio show majority of alcohol is from cane sugar, not agave & they claim 100% agave! I TOLD YOU THE TEQUILA SPACE WAS FULL OF BULLSHIT
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TFW 2yo finds a crayon stub ~somewhere~& draws all over the 130yo table you inerited & restored for your wedding table but you remind yourself that someone almost certainly jointed chickens on it at one point and it's all good & then the crayon rubs right off the Tung oil coating
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There is the *consumer* supply chain that gets 25 different brands of dish soap to the grocery store, the mild disruption most people saw that was still mostly stable.
Then there's the *production* supply chain, which was an entirely different matter
Why do so many books refer to covid as producing a "supply chain collapse." Supply chains rapidly adjusted, with (usually brief) shortages along the way, and in some areas (e.g. container shipping) there was massive inflation. But "collapse" ? Like, Wendy's stayed open.
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nitter.app/Jringo1508/status/1858… yeah our GDP was like triple theirs, every agent & researcher tasked with uncovering/replicating whatever bullshit we came up with was a millstone around the neck of their strategic research budget
And to be a fly on the wall and see the expressions of the KGB officers ordered to replicate the ability.
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It's so insanely hard to create something Real that it drives me fucking insane to see faux entrepreneurs posture like this
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A few weeks ago we had our pair of mini cows slaughtered; yesterday I picked up 743lbs of beef. Thread of my thoughts:
-everyone who says on-ranch kill is better is totally correct. They went from eating calmly where they were comfortable to not-alive with zero stress
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The second issue is that at least 2/3 of the apples in that chart have EXACTLY THE SAME AVERAGE SUGAR LEVELS!
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Before Elgin intervened, locals doing home repairs would literally just walk up the hill to the bombed out ruin of the Parthenon and take convenient fragments of *now* priceless statues and throw them into a fire, to burn down to lime for their mortar.
Britain should keep the Elgin Marbles.
Those trying to undermine our national culture should be taken on, not appeased.
news.sky.com/story/british-m…
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It's kind of funny/not funny to see buildings we looked at 2+ years ago for potential cidery locations STILL on the market, STILL overpriced. Can't talk about small town revitalization without talking about the boomers holding out for one last big splashy payday
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Brains are wild, 4.5yo just told me that "axolotl" reminded him of "quetzalcoatlus", like he's just casually IDing & associating Nahuatl phonemes?
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-staple crops (corn wheat soy rice potatoes will *never* come from vertical systems en masse
-land in cities will *always* be orders of magnitude more expensive than cropland
-energy created by human engineering will *always* cost more than The Literal Sun
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We measure sugar as Specific Gravity, the density of the juice relative to water. Water is SG1.000, adding sugar gets you a bigger number.
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We forget our fundamentally embodied nature at our peril
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3 Little Pigs is one of those stories that feels like fairytale nonsense these days but if you ever keep a pig on *pasture* you'll find that they do indeed build themselves little elevated nest/houses of sticks & straw & rocks
Arc of this children’s book:
1. Wolves build brick house; pig destroys it with sledgehammer
2. Wolves build concrete house; pig destroys it with jackhammer
3. Wolves build steel bunker; pig destroys it with TNT
4. Wolves build house of flowers; pig smells roses, reforms
So…
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Cute little intricate diagrams are a cognitive hack that seems to completely bypass critical thinking. Ahh yes, the self sufficient 1/3 acre pasture for 4 cows. Twice as much asparagus as potatoes. More fruit than grain. 200,000 bees within 75ft of your back door. 🌈Home💫
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"So it turns out we're in a discord together & didn't know it because I used to hook up with her cousin's roommate & mostly lurk there these days" at least *try* for verisimilitude when storytelling bro
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The way CoPackers work is you come to them with a pile of cash and a concept and then use their in-house marketing, branding, graphic design, and food lab to develop the Concept into a Product & their production line to make it. It's basically drop shipping for beverages
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nitter.app/Loxpie1234/status/1763… one more fun fact, I've heard two different explanations of this:
A) each X corresponds to a distillation run, with more indicating finer quality
B) each X marks an additional ~20%abv (often *also* corresponding with more runs)
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Let's recap, when I evaluate fruit I generally look at
Sugar:Specific Gravity low/high
Acidity:low/high
Acidity:sharp/tart
Tannin:low/high
Tannin:hard/soft
Aroma:low/high
Aroma:Type
Perceived Sweetness low/high
A simple 8 dimensional manifold for fruit evaluation
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Everyone too excited to dunk on this to consider that the inventors *knew* about root cellars and the point is the prefab part, WHICH IS NO TRIVIAL THING IN A BUILDING ENVIRONMENT TOTALLY CRIPPLED BY CODE ENFORCEMENT
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They're picked early to go into cold storage, where they can sometimes sit for 8+ months BUT THAT'S A DIFFERENT SET OF SINS THAN I'M ADDRESSING HERE
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Picking at a feral orchard from the 1870s today, this 1980s era wild apple tastes like vanilla-apple gummy worms
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Now we get into Commercial Growing Methods. Those trees are going to be excessively irrigated over the course of the season in order to maximize crop size & weight. That's gonna keep the sugar levels down. Most commercially grown grocery store apples will fall SG1.040-1.060
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If you enjoy strong opinions about apples you might enjoy my cider, which has been paired at various one, two, and three Michelin-starred restaurants posterityciderworks.com/
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On top of that, many of these varieties *do not* get picked at full ripeness. Those "high sugar" varieties can take a big hit off their maximum potential this way, consequently I've seen Granny Smith measure the same as Red Delicious or Macoun or Honeycrisp
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For simplicity's sake, let's break it into two bins, Tart acidity and Sharp acidity. For Tart, imagine the juicy acid of a Granny Smith, the way it kind of focuses at the corners of your jaw. For Sharp, think the bright, tip of your tongue electric hit of a lemon
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All that being said, urban farms & community gardens are wonderful things. Not because they'll produce any meaningful calories for their city (they can't) but because they help reconnect disembodied city dwellers with the natural systems that support them
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Sharp acidity will mask sweetness where Tart acidity will work alongside it. That's right, the type of acid will change how sweet you *think* something is. This brings us to Perceived Sweetness, a measure entirely separate from Specific Gravity
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There's nothing inherently wrong with this, it absolutely lowers the cost of entry for small players in the consumer packaged goods space. But it's gross to see someone proclaim "I Made This" when they're just an oil slick of branding atop someone else's infrastructure
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The use of both hormones is known to have a negative impact on flavor, and both are classed as pesticides with tight regulations surrounding safe use.
I'd honestly rather have GMO food than food which requires filling our environment with synthetic hormones
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Vertical farming will remain relegated to short season, low calorie, high margin crops like greens, mushrooms, and weed. It will *never* meaningfully change the food system, which is why all the smart money FUCKING BAILED
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Perceived Sweetness is a hard one, because it also brings in Aroma and Tannin but also because uhhh
There's more than one kind of sugar, too. Fruits aren't going to pump out any of the artifical stuff but there can be variation of the ratios between varities
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He's the Bond of the generation that spent 20 years fighting the GWOT, the whole point of his incarnation is to be a man just barely not-coming-apart
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"Graffiti is one of the most consistent archeological & cultural artifacts" I whisper to myself as my children slowly demolish my home around me
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They crafted the perfect experience for their ideal high spend customers & now the old audience is shrinking bc of age, they priced away the on-ramp for the younger audience whose tastes are changing anyway, and they're all debt structured to a degree that they can't pivot
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Honestly the folks getting angry imagining a $300k check from a $100M account would probably be even madder if you told them his parents cashed out their whole retirement & took out a 2nd mortgage because they loved and believed in him so much
I think it's interesting how "is Jeff Bezos self-made?" isn't actually a question about Jeff Bezos but an invitation to compare values. There's a difference between getting a seed loan and inheriting dynastic wealth, but lots of people would rather pretend there's not.
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Is human spaceflight & the interplanetary life project more important than adding windows to a tilt-up KMart box building from the mid 80s?
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An apple or pear that produces 0.5-1% of its sugar as sorbitol is going to taste 25% sweeter than one that doesn't EVEN AT THE SAME GRAVITY
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Ok now for Aroma. Apples can be either High aroma or Low, but within that aroma is an insanely huge property space so imagine one of these with vertices labeled things like Floral, Fruity, Leathery, Sharp, Tropical, Herbal, Earthy, Spice etc
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Occasional reminder that sustainability is a fake concept, Earth is not a closed system & receives 1200W/m^2 in energy subsidies and 80,000 tons/yr in material aid
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-anything capable of driving transport costs high enough to change the economy of bringing food into cities from outside would necessarily collapse the high input supply chain of a city based vertical farm
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It is Christmas Eve. We live on a farm in the remote countryside. I am unloading hay in the dark with hooks. Our airb&b guests are 20- somethings from the city, high out of their minds.
Tonight I am living a classic horror flick from the villain's POV
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They guy's whole shtick is being an alpha sales monster hustling away & conning people. He doesn't care that *you* value saving money on a $12 watch! But you make him feel like one of his own marks & maybe you're getting somewhere
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Oil, gas, & mining kills 100-150 Americans per year. Logging, power linesmen, fishermen; we accept massively higher injury & death rates so you can eat salmon than we do so life can go interplanetary. Also reminder that it's twice as dangerous to be a rancher than a cop lol
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"This can be defeated by an SD1+ with a tool! Security fail!" OK but the modal vandal is a meth head on his last dozen brain cells
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Idk what number of gripe I'm on but I'll close with the fact that even accepting the chart's stupid tart/sweet framing it's still a TERRIBLE chart because only someone who's never eaten a McIntosh would put it at the 3rd most tart apple. Everything about this chart is trash
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Let's go back and talk about Tannin. Usually simplified as Bitterness, this can be seen as either high or low. Most grocery fruit will be on the Low Tannin end of things but (here I go again) Tannin can also be either Hard or Soft
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Safety razors are about 1"x2"x.006" so a 150x block occupies about 2 in³. Space between studs should be 16" that era, with maybe a 12" drop to first fire block, times 4" depth gets us 768 in³/2 in³ * 150count =57,600x razor blades before full. Per bathroom. Seems sensible.
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These are some of the gnarliest, oldest Arkansas Black trees I've found. The property has been growing apples since 1870 & most of the ABs here are from 1920s-1950s but my gut tells me these are 3 trees from a c.1880-1900 planting
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For Hard tannin, yeah, think bitterness. Think Assam tea, steeped for an hour in boiling water. Soft tannin is more complicated, it can hit your palate in various ways from a velvety smoothness to a subtle astringency, sometimes savory sometimes sweet
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And just like with cultured meat, most of the measures by which vertical farming "wins" rely on distortions like labeling "spring rain on prairieland" as "wasted freshwater"
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This sounds like a dunk but honestly it's a poast about the heartbreaking moment when you realize no, that person *isn't* your kind of people, you're alone here
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Human memory is immensely plastic. Every time a memory is accessed and replayed it can be changed in small ways that add up over time. Handing core memories to a hallucination engine in the control of a third party for the purpose of emotional masturbation is beyond dumb
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People who think modern punctuation is pretentious need to read more pre-20th century works where, in the fullness of experience, they will find sentences of such expansive span broken only by the subtle delineation of clause from sub clause by simple commas and part of speech,
The semicolon was the pretentious punctuation mark of the 2010s; the em dash has been the pretentious punctuation mark of the 2020s — I wonder what it will be for the 2030s!
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I've had a MIND BOGGLING number of conversations lately with very normie men with blue collar/physical jobs who are interested in peptides for injury repair.
Forget obesity, I think we don't really have a grasp on how many men are walking around with chronic soft tissue pain
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Today I got to stand in front of this glass pattern by Frank Llyod Wright and was yet again struck by the intensity of seeing art in person vs pictures
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Effective altruism is an autoimmune disease of the human empathy system
Didn't we learn that the bottomless demand for mosquito nets was driven by their theft & conversion into illegal fishing nets, and they now make up like 5% of ocean microplastic?
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"It's a farm it doesn't need to look pretty" sure but it's also my house, it doesn't need to look ugly
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Even there though, apples grown in California will put out more sugar than the same variety grown in New England simply by dint of the metabolic impact of hot summers on sugar production
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I will not stand for libels against the yoof when their honest & authentic stupidity is so plentiful
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The really fun part is that each of those metrics will have some degree of variation for the same variety depending upon the growing conditions for that specific tree. Generally commercial orchards get flattened down pretty aggressively by high input spreadsheet Ag practices
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Errybody want a righteous God-daddy to solve all pain, ain't nobody wanna acknowledge that the richest human in history has a net worth under 1% of one government's annual budget
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They're not exclusionary, either, many of the apples I use for cider have both Hard & Soft Tannins in varying ratios.
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