Facts Over Opinions refers to using FACTS over opinions when deciding the 🐐 I will still give my OPINIONS on basketball
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No player has ever dominated their era like LeBron.
3 of the teams are on this list because of HIM.
The fact that people try to diminish his greatness is absurd.
We are witnessing a once in a lifetime player.
I'm just glad I spent this time appreciating what he's done.
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MJ took 24,537 shots in the regular season.
He scored 32,292 points.
On Feb 25, 2020 LeBron took his 24,537th shot in a regular season game.
Scoring the 33,918th point of his career.
Same amount of shots yet one guy had 1600+ more points.
So who's REALLY the better scorer?
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LeBron's playoff numbers are unlike any players in NBA history.
He truly is 1 of a kind
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I was told MJ carried those Bulls teams while
Lebron was part of a “SuperTeam”?
So how come MJ’s #2 and #3 have more rebounds, double the assists, and shot better than “Lebron’s SuperTeam”?
I need answers.
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If LeBron quit the league due to mental fatigue he would instantly be excluded from the goat debate.
MJ did it TWICE.
Not only his he not excluded, but they actually use it to prop him up.
This is one of the biggest double standards in this debate.
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Every player on this list had to play an entire career to make this list.
Yet for some reason longevity is ONLY a negative when it comes to LeBron.
It doesn't make any sense.
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If LeBron shot 7/22 and his team won by 10+ points how long would we here "LeBron carried AGAIN."
But when it's Steph 🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗
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MJ favored in the finals 6/6 times.
Steph favored in the finals 6/6 times.
LeBron favored in the finals 3/10 times.
But who had the superteam?????
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MJ goes to the Wizards for his 14th and 15th seasons. Yet there were 0 expectations and no backlash for missing playoffs.
LeBron goes to Lakers for his 16th+ seasons. Wins a chip yet those same fans tell me its a failure.
Why are there higher expectations for LeBron than MJ?
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LeBron's 19th season will NEVER be matched.
Of all the LeBron graphics I've made this one is one of my favorites.
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My childhood was spent watching MJ and thinking he was the greatest.
LeBron came along and proved to me someone could be better.
If someone comes along and proves they're better than LeBron I will accept it unlike most MJ fans.
Appreciate greatness.
Don't discredit it.
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MJ fans when trying to argue why 6 rings is better than 11 after telling us 4 isnt better than 6.
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Just a reminder of what LeBron did in Year 19.
They want to act like it's normal to score 30 PPG at age 37.
He did things players NEVER did before and they brush it off like it's nothing.
Anything to diminish his achievements.
And still.
In a class by himself.
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The MJ vs LeBron Double Standard
Year 14 no playoff expectations
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Year 19 no chip means he failed.
Year 14 scoring 23 PPG on 22 FGA/G gets praised
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Year 19 scoring 30 PPG on 22 FGA/G gets criticized all year long
How can MJ be the goat if he's held to lower standards?
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Most seasons averaging
25 points
6 rebounds
6 assists
LeBron: 18 (consecutive)
Oscar: 9
Harden: 4
Westbrook: 4
Bird: 4
Luka: 3
MJ: 3
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When LeBron breaks the scoring record he will be the ONLY player with 10k rebounds AND 10k assists, while also being the all-time leading scorer.
That will be the greatest accomplishment in NBA history.
Securing his place as the 🐐
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The REAL reason you never see Nick Wright and Skip Bayless on tv together.
Nick cooked him so bad they never allowed them to be seen together after this.
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They really said LeBron had more help than Steph.
*Updated with full 2022 playoff stats
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21 year old LeBron vs Prime MJ
I've been told that MJ retired in his prime TWICE.
Here's what happens when a 21 year old Lebron gets the same number of shots per game as prime MJ.
The numbers speak for themselves.
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The 2011 Mavs don't get enough credit.
2011 Mavs roster
27 All-Star selections
20 All-NBA selections
10 All-Defensive selections
2011 Heat roster
21 All-Star selections
15 All-NBA selections
6 All-Defensive selections
It's just easier to blame LeBron.
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If LeBron was put in MJ's situation with the main focus of just scoring, he would have matched anything MJ did.
If MJ was put into LeBron's situation where he was asked to carry a team the way LeBron was, he would not have matched what LeBron was able to do.
Think about it.
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If Wade was never born LeBron would still have 2 chips.
If Kyrie was never born LeBron would still have 3 chips.
If AD was never born LeBron would still have 3 chips.
If Scottie was never born MJ would still be trying to make it out of the 1st round.
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MJ fans love to say Steph >>> LeBron because he beat him 3 times to 1 in the playoffs.
Wouldn't that mean Isiah >>> MJ because he has the same 3-1 record vs MJ.
Or does that not count because it's MJ?
Asking for a friend.....
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Looks like Giannis going back to back is gonna have to wait a few more years.
Getting to back-to-back finals is tough.
Imagine making 8 in a row?
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The 2 greatest basketball players I've seen in my lifetime are LeBron and MJ.
They main difference between them is the eras in which they played in.
MJ dominated in an era where he always had the best team.
LeBron dominated in an era where he was always facing the best teams.
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MJ had 30 triple doubles in 1251 career games
LeBron has 34 triple doubles as a member of the Lakers in just 250 games.
Don't forget that his Laker career started AFTER his 15th season.
MJ was already retired, LeBron is still putting up insane numbers.
LEVELS.
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In the 86-87 season MJ shot 972 free throws
In the last 3 seasons COMBINED, LeBron shot 972 free throws.
LeBron needed to attempt 50% more shots than MJ to get the same amount of free throws. Not to mention he takes way more shots at the rim. Unreal.
It doesn't make sense.
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Of course LeBron has more assists, he has the ball in his hands way more than MJ ever did.
MJ's career USG% 33.3%
LeBron's career USG% 31.6%
MJ's 5 highest USG% (season)
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LeBron's 5 highest USG% (season)
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Truth wins AGAIN.
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In year 19 LeBron was performing the way he did 10 years ago while winning the MVP
No player in the history of the game has been this good for this long.
Other player have played as long, but LeBron is the only player to play at this level for this long.
He truly is 1 of 1
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The Utah Jazz scored 54 points in an NBA Finals game.
That's the BEST team MJ ever faced in the Finals.
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If LeBron does not deliver the Lakers another championship, his 20th season will be considered a failure.
Think about that.
In his 20th season, it's championship or bust for LeBron.
MJ was never expected to live up to these standards.
This is why LeBron is the 🐐, not MJ.
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This upcoming season will be 20 years of LeBron.
Im glad I've been able to appreciate his career rather than sitting here hoping that he fails.
He is by far the most scrutinized athlete ever.
We may never see another player like him.
Appreciate him while you can.
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I remember when we used to say things like most points scored in a career or all-time assist leader.
The moment that LeBron started making his way up these lists they're now LONGEVITY records.
I guess Kareem playing 20 years is different than LeBron playing 20 years.
Weird.
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Nick Wright spittin once again.
"The rules change every time as long as Michael Jordan's the winner"
Broussard says LeBron was owned by the Warriors for losing 3 out of 4 series, but immediately defends MJ because he beat the Pistons 1 out of 4 times.
Hypocrisy at it's finest.
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In his 13 playoff runs, MJ took 4497 shots.
He scored 5987 points.
Over his first 12 playoff runs LeBron took 4496 shots.
He scored 6163 points.
But they tell me LeBron is not in MJ's league when it comes to scoring.
Sure seems like he is.
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Hearing MJ get praised for shooting over 40% his 1st year on the Wizards tells me all I need to know about how different MJ and LeBron are judged.
How much do they need to lower the standards for MJ?
40% 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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There are scorers and there are facilitators.
Nobody has ever had the skill set to do both, while consistently winning at the highest level.
Except LeBron James.
He's 1 of 1
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Before MJ had Pippen teams knew they wouldnt win even if MJ went off. They knew he wasnt going to beat them by himself.
But then you look at what the 2007 Spurs did to LeBron.
They double/triple teamed him.
They knew he could beat them by himself.
That's the difference
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14 players in NBA history have led the league in made field goals for multiple seasons.
Every one of them has led the league in field goal attempts, except 1.
LeBron James.
Proving that you don't need to shoot the most to score the most.
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LeBron James has scored 10 points in 1096 straight games.
MJs career didnt even last that long.
Think about that for a second.
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There should be NO debate, LeBron is the greatest EVER.
In the 2018 Playoffs the Cavs faced elimination 4 times.
In those 4 games, LeBron outplayed the other Cavs starters COMBINED.
Nobody in the history of the game has ever been asked to do more for his team than LeBron.
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This is how WEAK the eastern Conference was during MJ's time.
In 1985-86 the Bulls made the playoffs with a 30-52 record.
EVERY SINGLE TEAM IN THE WESTERN CONFERENCE WOULD HAVE MADE THE PLAYOFFS IN THE EAST.
EVERY LAST ONE OF EM.
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The fact that Steph fans brag about beating LeBron in 2017 and 2018 never ceases to amaze me.
They needed injuries to his #2 and #3 guys in 2015.
Then they added the 2nd best player in the world cause they got beat in 2016.
That fan base has no shame whatsoever.
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LeBron v MJ at age 35
People really live off that nostalgia.
I think it's obvious, LeBron is the 🐐
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This is how bad the Cavs were the year after LeBron left
2010-11: 19-63
2018-19: 19-63
This is how bad the Bulls were the year MJ played minor league baseball:
1993-94: 55-27
Cavs 38 wins in 2 seasons
Bulls 55 wins in 1 season
Who meant more to their team?
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LeBron and Kobe were friends.
They don't need to be compared all the time but the way the media treats them causes fans of both sides to pit them against one another.
They would never want this to happen.
Going forward I will do my best to not use one to put down the other.
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I seem to recall everyone telling me LeBron sat vs the best teams last year.
# of games vs Top 5 defenses (2021-22):
LeBron: 13
Embiid: 10
Giannis: 12
More PPG than Embiid and Giannis with half the FTA's
I'm sure the best defenses just let LeBron score to pad his stats.
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When LeBron's teammates weren't good enough he LOSES in the finals.
When MJ's teammates weren't good enough he wasn't even making it to the finals.
For some unknown reason MJ fans want you to believe MJ is better for NOT taking his team as far as LeBron.
Make it make sense.
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MJ shot 972 free throws in 1 season.
LeBron's shot 972 free throws in the last 3 seasons combined.
That includes 1300+ shots at the rim, where most fouls occur.
The refs have loved swallowing their whistle ever since he won his 1st chip.
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People say Isiah Thomas is just salty and that's why he says LeBron James is the goat and not Michael Jordan.
Last I checked Isiah Thomas beat MJ in the playoffs 3x and only lost 1x.
Wouldn't it make more sense for him to say MJ was the goat, since he got the best of him?
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Imagine being 18 and starting your first job.
Your manager tells you that unless you are the best to ever step foot in the door your career will be a failure.
Now imagine if the whole world was watching you work everyday and not just a few coworkers.
The LeBron James story.
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Scottie's importance is diminished in order to prop up his own teammates mythical legacy.
Wade's importance is exaggerated to tarnish LeBron's legacy.
I've seen Scottie referred to as "not a superstar."
I've been told Wade was in his prime from 11-14.
Am I missing something?
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There's LeBron.
And there's everyone else.
Whether you have him as the GOAT, #2, #3, or #9 like Skip, there is no denying that we've never seen anyone like him before.
Truly 1 of 1.
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“Lebron has always been on SuperTeams.”
Yet in 10 finals he’s had a total of 5 All NBA players and 1 All Def Player.
This is who he actually had.
1 Year of Prime Wade.
2 years of healthy, pre prime Kyrie.
1 year of Healthy AD.
You can keep your stories, I’ll stick to facts.
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Just look at the names on this list.
This signifies - Excellence in Scoring + Efficiency, while being Mr. Everything for the team.
Lebron has 18 straight seasons, everyone else in NBA History has 21 total.
Stop comparing him to the Field.
He’s 1 of 1.
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The ultimate loyalty is the loyalty to winning.
LeBron is the ONLY player in NBA history to win NBA FMVP for 3 different teams.
How's that for loyalty?
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LeBron led every player in the finals in pts, rebs, asts, stls, and blks and for some reason people still say Kyrie saved him for hitting a shot in game 7.
Kobe shot 6/24 in a game 7 while a teammate had 19 pts and 18 rebs, yet the narrative is he had NO HELP.
Oh the hypocrisy.
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Playoff series wins WITHOUT a Top 75 teammate:
LeBron: 20
MJ: 0
MJ never made it past the 1st round without a Top 75 teammate.
Finals appearances WITHOUT a Top 75 teammate:
LeBron: 5
MJ: 0
LeBron had the greatest comeback in finals history without a Top 75 teammate.
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MJ missed 12345 shots in his career
By the time LeBron missed his 12345th shot he
Scored 2066 more points
Grabbed 2768 more rebounds
Dished out 3747 more assists
Only 86 players in NBA history have those numbers for their ENTIRE careers.
More player have made the HOF.
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For his career MJ took:
22,759 2-pt attempts
1,778 3-pt attempts
8,772 Free-throw attempts
He scored 32,292 points
If LeBron took the same amount of 2's 3's and FT's as MJ, he would score 33,410 points.
He would outscore MJ by 1,118 points.
LeBron is the better scorer.
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LeBron is on another level.
LeBron has more 30/10/5 games in the playoffs than every team in the NBA.
Not more than every other player, more than every other team. 👀👀👀
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LeBron has 48 playoff games with:
30+ pts, 10+ rebs, 5 + asts
Not only is it more than every player in NBA history, it is more than every single franchise in NBA history.
LeBron is no longer compared to individual players, he's compared to entire franchises.
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Most people will tell you the guys on the left were in their primes, while the guy on the right choked.
LeBron outperformed Wade and Bosh COMBINED yet still receives the blame for them losing to the "Old Spurs."
Even though the Heat were the older team.
They love to tell lies.
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Championships won as underdog (last 30 years):
LeBron- 2
Wade- 2
Giannis- 1
Hakeem- 1
Kawhi- 1
MJ- 0
Steph- 0
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MJ fans want you to believe Playoff basketball in MJ's era was so hard and scoring was tougher.
It wasn't
League Scoring Averages in the Playoffs
MJ's 1st 3peat
1991: 104.2 PPG
1992: 103.3 PPG
1993: 99.5 PPG
LeBron's 1st 3 titles
2012: 92.8 PPG
2013: 95.2 PPG
2016: 99.8 PPG
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Who needs help?
LeBron and Hakeem are the only 2 players since 1990 to win a chip without having a teammate make at least one of the following teams:
All-Star
All-NBA
All-Defensive
LeBron beat the 73-9 Warriors.
MJ and Steph couldn't even make the finals.
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Finals Opponents averaging 25+ PPG
MJ:
Barkley
Malone
LeBron:
KD 3x
Curry 3x
Butler
Dirk
Westbrook
But MJ played better competition, right?
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Scottie Pippen played 691 games with MJ
He had 63 games of 25/5/5 while playing next to MJ
The 13 players below have played a combined 2168 games with LeBron.
They have 69 games of 25/5/5 while playing next to him.
Yet MJ fans still downplay Scottie's importance to The Bulls/MJ
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If LeBron took 200+ more shots than everyone every year, he would have 10 scoring titles too.
It's easy to make the most shots when you take the most shots.
MJ never made the shots without taking the most shots.
LeBron made the most shots 5 times without EVER taking the most.
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20 times in NBA history a player scored 40+ points in a Game 7.
Only 1 player has done it twice.
LeBron James.
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MJ played in 3 different decades
He made the finals in only 1 of them.
LeBron played in 3 different decades.
He made the finals in EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM.
LEVELS.
This is why LeBron James is the 🐐
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Scottie Pippen won more playoff SERIES without MJ than MJ won playoff GAMES without Pippen.
Let that sink in.
Who needed who?
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They really act like all 3 of these guys were in their primes.
LeBron is basically outperforming Wade and Bosh combined in 1500 less minutes on the court.
How they still consider this a SUPERTEAM is beyond comprehension.
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