"I believe there's a hero in all of us, that keeps us honest, gives us strength, makes us noble, and finally allows us to die with pride"
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He didn't really make him less powerful tbh. He literally escapes a black hole with just his super breath alone whilst heavily weakened from Kryptonite exposure. The key thing to realise is that there's no point in attempting to weaken Superman because you'll inevitably make...
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...him overpowered, as writers don't actually realise how much power it would take to perform certain feats so when they say that they're making a character weaker and then have them perform certain feats, it's a contradiction
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Tbh, that dynamic you've described is literally just comic book Superman and Lex
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I don't understand why people don't seem to have a problem with this? Because it's either:
1) He wilfully intended to kill his clone, in which case it's not Superman
In Superman 2025, Superman brutally murdered his clone by throwing him into a black hole. This is not at all consistent with how his comic counterpart handles things or how he's shown to care about life in this very movie. A major oversight that should be ignored
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The English dub intro is so poor when you compare it to the original version. There are only so many times you can hear 'digital monsters'
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Lara Lor-Van
Lois Lane
Lana Lang
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Lex Luthor
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Lena Luthor
L.L is pretty common for Superman
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Can't you tell? Just remove the glasses, and they look exactly the same! And, you'll notice that Superman and Clark as never in the same place at the same time!
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2) He intended to trap his clone in the black hole, but the movie itself mentioned that Superman can only breathe for an hour, so he's killing him off anway
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I feel like whenever writers try to underpower Superman, they accidentally end up having him perform a feat that would take ridiculous power to perform. I think the real lesson to learn is don't try to underpower Superman, because you're inevitably going to make him overpowered
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Another reason why The Batman works better is because it feels realistic. His parents being flawed people is something that I can buy. On the other hand, Superman makes it too cartoonish, especially with egregious harem joke, which is part of the reason why it doesn't work
Let’s talk about the “secrets of the father” reveals in The Batman and Superman (2025)
Both of these ideas are about taking the meta-textual issues with the characters and pinning the blame on an in-text aspect away from the character themselves, so they can try to separate…
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And the excuses don't make sense to me either
1) There was no other way for Superman to stop him
A: But isn't the whole, "he always finds a way", a cardinal trait of Superman? I'm not saying that Ultraman can't fall into the black hole but at least have Clark try to save him
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Golden Age Superman is interesting, but you have to remember that while, yes, Silver Age Superman did become far more powerful than Golden Age Superman, the threats he faced also scaled up. Golden Age Superman faced corrupt landlords, and street criminals. Silver Age Superman...
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2) Ultraman was a clone so he deserved to die
A: Clones deserve life as much as anyone. There are several important characters in comics who are clones and they're all good people. I'm not saying this excuses Ultraman's actions, but at least have Clark express empathy for him
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This discourse surrounding Krypton is genuinely making me crazy
People: The twist's good because it shows that Superman can make his own choices rather than listening to his bio dad
Me: But couldn't he already do that if his parents sent him to Earth to survive and not conquer?
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I don't mind Jor-El and Lara being morally grey, or having a less than positive opinions of humans (because that's what humans would be like if aliens actually existed) but the whole 'take as many wives' thing made it too cartoonish for me. The Batman did the same thing but...
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3) Ultraman had no intelligence. He was little more than an animal
A: Did Superman not try to save a Kajiu or did he not save a squirrel? Surely, Ultraman deserves as much courtesy as they do.
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The car crash isn't a bad idea, but for me it only works if Clark is obviously busy doing something else and can't get there in time, and if Dr Manhattan was revealed to be manipulating things
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4) Ultraman was under Lex's control
A: Shouldn't Superman be more sympathetic to Ultraman's plight then, given he's victim of Lex Luthor? And lots of people commit bad acts when under duress of others, but it's generally not the go-to thing to try and kill them
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All Star isn't just hopecore, it's just that people only read one page instead of reading the whole thing
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...faced genocidal aliens, cosmic beings, and interdimensional imps. Silver Age Superman was very powerful, but the power difference between him and the threats he faced was the same with Golden Age Superman and the threats he faced. Honestly, I think the reason so many people...
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Vandal Savage was great, but I can't lie and say it wasn't irritating getting series after series of the team winning and Savage losing, except for Savage to say that it was all part of the plan and then travel to Apokolips for his annual handshake with Darkseid
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....think Superman is boring because he's too powerful is because past films focused a lot on how powerful he was, and also because most of the time in the movies, Superman only fought Lex. If he was allowed to fight Brainiac, Mongul, Mr Mxyzpltk, or any of his other threats...
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Can someone please explain the difference between Superman snapping Zod's neck and Superman throwing Ultraman into a black hole?
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By itself, this theme isn't bad but when I compare it to Butterfly, it doesn't really match up to be honest. That's not to say that I don't like dubs. In fact, a dub opening that I prefer to the original is this:
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...that were equal to or stronger than him in power than maybe people would be singing a different tune
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Does anyone else just not care for Deadpool at all? Like, in both comics and movies? Cause he really just feels really annoying all the time
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DC has always used metahumans for people born with their powers. Superhumans refers to everyone who has powers. Think of it this way, every metahuman is a superhuman but not all superhumans are metahumans
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"The idea that the Lanterns are super special"
But doesn't giving Batman a stronger will than all the other Lanterns and making him better at using the ring then then make him super special? Like, isn't that a contradiction in itself?
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In regard to the image, I always feel sad wanting to see a more comic accurate Barry in the original timeline version. I regard to the suit, it took us, what? Eight seasons to get the golden boots? Way too long
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Bruce isn't a perfect father, he has good moments and bad, but I just don't think I can get the idea of him beating up his kids into my head. It, to me, conflicts with his ideals of Gotham being a better place and him believing anyone can be redeemed. How can you believe...
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There's been a lot of talk since the new Superman movie came about whether Krypton is relevant to Superman and whether they're evil or not, so I'm going to address some of this
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To be fair, he didn't consent to Conner's creation and gave him to his parents because he knew they would be able to better take care of a kid and give him more attention than he would be able to. If he really didn't care about Conner, he'd have left him to sort out his own care
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Originally, she came from Argo City, which was a city that survived Krypton's destruction. When things went wrong, she was sent to Earth, where she met her cousin Superman. She was actually younger both chronologically and biologically originally. When they met each other...
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I'm not going to say it's a perfect film, but some people legitimately act as if it killed their dog and relieved itself on said dog's grave
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I think if Superhero media actually made their words more fantasy, it would make worldbuilding so much better. There's so much obsession with making things realistic, which really limits things, when you should be trying to go as big as possible (at least for the characters...
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Now I've got people saying I'm lying 😆. Guys, I assure you this is my genuine opinion. I'm not saying this song is bad, it just doesn't compare to Butterfly for me. And to me, it's a crime to have this theme over Brave Heart playing for evolutions
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Three things are common in life:
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Gunn has taken the ideas and takes on the character I loath the most and made them the central pillars of the film
The way I felt when this ended is identical how I felt when rise of Skywalker ended
Any interest I might've had for this Superman is dead on arrival
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You just know that some of these people who decry you for wanting comic accuracy would be the first to start cheering if their favourite director adapted something from the comics
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Why was he not arrested at the end of the film? Surely the U.S government would not take well to one of its citizens employing corporate superheroes that assassinate the leaders of their allies
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At least with the zone, he has the projector to get people out. Here, he threw him into, for all intents, an interdimensional prison, and then threw away the key.
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Luke wanted more responsibility but when he got it, he realised he preferred the freedom and adventures that came with unemployment
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My personal opinion is that most Gunn and Snyder fans are good and get on well, but the extremes of both sides are as bad as each other in some ways
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Why must we always give Superman villains to other characters? I genuinely don't understand it
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But couldn't you just achieve the same effect by having Jor-El and Lara send Kal to Earth purely so he could survive and not become Earth's saviour? That way, his parents are still good and he still has the agency in his decision to become Superman
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Watching this show really tricks you into believing that the rest of the adaptations of Green Lantern that you watch will be good
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People: The twist is good because Jor-El doesn't tell him to become Superman
Me: Jor-El only did that in the movies mostly and isn't he just listening to Pa Kent instead telling him to become Superman rather than making the decision on his own?
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When people criticise Obi-Wan and say he was a bad master, it kind of ignores the fact that Palpatine was sabotaging Anakin's apprenticeship all along. Like, how could Obi-Wan teach him anything one day if Palpatine told him to ignore everything the next? Remove Palpatine...
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I think I'm tired of bad symbiote adaptations, and there are plenty of times in the comics where Peter has had breakdowns and he didn't have the symbiote
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I really don't understand how some Superman fans dislike Krypton. I struggle to understand how you can hype up the "Last Son of Krypton" aspect of the character, and yet say that Superman shouldn't care about Krypton and that caring about it is more Kara's thing. Like, isn't...
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People: An alien society would totally want to invade
Me: Aliens have moral nuance like humans. I believe that when your planet is literally disintegrating around you, the last thing on your mind would be telling your son to conquer Earth and not getting him off the planet quick
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And it's still an incomplete movie, which is why we get the time reversal ending again. Such a shame we never got Donner's complete version, I would have liked to have seen it
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People: The twist won't ruin Krypton's public perception, what are you talking about?
Me: Than why have the past 20 years been filled filled with discourse about how Superman is boring (Superman Returns, MoS) or Superman is evil (Injustice)?
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Trying to balance the Kents's importance to Superman is difficult. Make them too important, you take away Clark's agency in his choice to become Superman, which is why we've been getting the 'dumb farmboy' trope in response to Evil Superman...
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People: The twist is good because it means Kara can have kindness for the first time in her life
Me: Can aliens not feel happiness? Must people have to embrace traditional family values to feel happiness?
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People: You just hate change!
Me: I don't mind change, but there comes a point where the changes make the character antithetical to their previous characterisation. It's disingenuous to say that only some hate change when we all have favourite characters that we dislike changing
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Honestly, I think it would have helped the whole "this is not an origin story" thing if they'd made it clear that Superman and Lex had fought each other directly before, and this was just Lex's latest scheme. It also helps because it shows who Superman has finally exposed...
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...recognised that it was better for Bruce's parents to be more morally grey rather than evil, and it felt more linked to Bruce's arc over the course of the movie. Also, it feels like Gunn made the twist not just becomes he likes using that twist but also to correct the Donner...
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And this was supposed to be an immigrant analogy? 😬
James Gunn on Jor El and Lara
“I don’t really even think of Jor-El and Lara as being totally evil. They just have this mindset that humans are less than what they are. We’re sea turtles to them. They’re just trying to keep the Kryptonian genes alive.”
(Via @RollingStone )
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I also feel that Gunn likes the idea of choosing found family over biological family. That's not a bad idea, and it works for the Guardians of the Galaxy, but the whole point of Superman's character is that he was loved by both his biological and adopted parents
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You can't make it up at this point. I'm going to come out and say this: All the problems the general audience has with Superman would all be resolved if they didn't have Batman fans writing Superman. That's it. All you have to do is have a Superman movie written by a Superman fan
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No, that's silly! We can't have that! Instead, we can have Savage saying this for the 15th millionth time
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Move over 'Superman is boring' takes. Now, it's going to be 'Krypton is evil', 'Superman never cared about Krypton's, 'Jor-El and Lara had nothing to do with Clark choosing to become Superman and they're not important' takes
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