How can we best create beneficial AGI, ASI and Singularity for all sentient beings?? -- Founder/CEO @asi_alliance @singularitynet, BGI Foundry, etc. etc.

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Fortunately to get real human-level AGI one will need strong subsystems for advanced reasoning & evolutionary creativity integrated with LLMs, & while OpenAI is not going there, some of us more dedicated to benevolence and decentralization totally ARE @SingularityNET @True_AGI
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So excited that next week SingularityNET AGIX token will become multichain and extend to the (fundamentally quite superior) Cardano Blockchain !! Kudos to @IOHK_Charles and all of IOG for making Cardano and making this happen ;) finance.yahoo.com/news/carda…
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1) ChatGPT is super cool and fun but it's important to recall OpenAI made basically zero fundamental innovations. Actually the basic innovation behind the GPT software was made at Google Brain in Mountain View
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Once more @lexfridman does a fantastic job of drawing deep, interesting stuff out of a deep, interesting mind. I'm admittedly increasingly biased as we work together more, but I would submit @IOHK_Charles is gonna go down as one of the great late-pre-Singularity biz/tech minds
Here's my conversation with Charles Hoskinson (@IOHK_Charles) about Cardano, Ethereum, Bitcoin, Dogecoin, @elonmusk, mathematics, life, and much more. This was a fascinating conversation, setting the record for the longest one on the podcast at 5 hours. piped.video/watch?v=FKh8hjJN…
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There are a lot of fast, cheap blockchains coming out. But only Cardano is using a powerfully abstract functional language for smart contracts. Provably correct, secure smart contracts: critical for the future decentralized intelligent Net and only Cardano is delivering that.
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Would be good fun to build some advanced AI into this Hoskinson/Musk decentralized socmed system, for reputation management and transparent personalized automated feed curation and etc. etc. @singularity_net
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Building the decentralized AI layer and reputation system for the Cardano/Hypercycle based , Musk funded, free speech focused web3 social network sounds rather fun
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Fun-as-hell videochat earlier this week w/ the Grace eldercare robot (Sophia's little sister), @IOHK_Charles and myself ... (Grace's AI thanks to @singularity_net combining OpenCog w/ some deep NNs...)
It's Friday. And it's the end of the month. So here's a fun #Cardano360 bonus as we head into the weekend. So what happens when you put @IOHK_Charles @bengoertzel @singularity_net & a humanoid robot called #Grace on a call together? This. Enjoy! 😃 🤖 piped.video/watch?v=uddet_hn…
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Yes! Pending finalization via token-holder vote, SingularityNet, Fetch.ai and Ocean Protocol are merging our tokens into a new $ASI token and joining forces technically via a new Artificial Superintelligence Alliance .... so as to most effectively move toward beneficial AGI and beneficial ASI and beyond! ... @SingularityNET @Fetch_ai @oceanprotocol
We are excited to announce a multi-billion token merger with @Fetch_ai and @oceanprotocol to create the Artificial Superintelligence Alliance, the largest open-sourced, decentralized network, and accelerate the race to AGI. Learn more: businesswire.com/news/home/2…
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Replying to @elonmusk
If you truly want to build a TruthGPT Elon then DM me... this needs more than just avoiding biased filters and training data, it needs hybridization of an LLM with a symbolic inference system that groks truth. I know how to do this but it'll need a lot of processors to train.
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Full Plutus launch is shaping up to be an epic threshold event not just for Cardano but for the functional programming and blockchain worlds as a whole.... When I wrote my first Haskell code in 1993 I had inklings such things were coming -- & now it's all getting real !!!
That moment when you realize that the next Cardano HFC event is full Plutus support...

ALT excited freak out GIF

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My highly enjoyable 4hr interview on AGI etc. w/ Lex Fridman is now online... ;)
Here's my conversation with Ben Goertzel (@bengoertzel) about AGI, @singularity_net, Sophia, Dostoevsky, life, death, and meaning. It was the longest AI podcast conversation to date at 4 hours and could've easily gone 4 more. It was fun and fascinating. piped.video/watch?v=OpSmCKe2…
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The fact that IOHK now has a really cool blockchain-education-records contract w/ Ethiopian gov't -- and SingularityNET has been doing AI in Addis Ababa since its inception -- adds a really funky flavor to the already super-promising/exciting Cardano/SNet collaboration!
Two hours of amazing content piped.video/yRjj662kJsk thanks everyone for the Africa Special
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Backstage at Cardano Summit with Grace's new friends...
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1) While I have extremely little respect for Trump's intellect, character or literary prowess, it actually annoys me that he's been blocked from what is effectively a near-universal national US "communication utility" (Twitter). #TrumpBanned
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Selling tweets as NFTs is so Q1 2021. I will *rent* ownership of an NFT comprising an image of this tweet for USD $666 for one year. Permanent ownership is for pre-Singularity dweebs. You cannot step into the same river even once!
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1) What will a Musk acquisition of Twitter mean? Will this bring about radical decentralization and democratization of social media? more intelligent and productive and consciousness-expanding speech and interaction? @elonmusk @jack @IOHK_Charles
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Well fuck. Another amazing, brilliant, flawed human being bites the dust. May the resurrection machine bring us Virtual McAfee running on SNet version 5.0 one day...
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John I recall our brief chat in this vein in Malta! As I opined then, it's superhuman AGI that'll have the power to break human minds out of the prisons they've created for themselves. But we need to keep control of AGI out of the hands of centralized powers. @singularity_net
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One of my goals is to lose my attachment to goals, but I'm worried I may not be able to achieve it ...
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Note to all who follow my Twitter account... I'm deeply sorry to report that -- as many of you have will have noticed from messages that appeared on the account over the last few days -- my personal Twitter account was recently hacked. I've now regained control. During the time the account was compromised, unauthorized posts containing links to scam websites (some referencing SingularityNET related crypto tokens) were made. To anyone who clicked on those links, I sincerely apologize for any distress this may have caused. Upon discovering the hack, I immediately took action to inform the community by asking SingularityNET to post daily notices about the breach. Additionally, SingularityNET helped me to retain a security team to expedite the process of regaining control. I am cooperating with Twitter and the relevant authorities to investigate the incident and prevent such occurrences in the future; and I urge anyone who has been affected to report the scam to the appropriate authorities and to take necessary steps to secure their accounts and personal information. This is my own personal Twitter account that I set up myself in 2009, it has not hitherto been managed by SingularityNET or TrueAGI or any other company in which I have a role. However, observing the heightened attention that the recent ASI merger seems to be bringing from hackers and scammers, going forward I will be leveraging assistance from SingularityNET's IT team on security matters regarding my personal social media accounts. Once again, I apologize for any distress caused and appreciate your understanding, and will move forward with redoubled care due to this unfortunate incident. Yours, Ben Goertzel
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Hey @IOHK_Charles having @sama join forces on a decentralized LLM on Cardano would be good fun. Would be really interesting to put my and my team's savvy on neural-symbolic AI together with @sama 's LLM know-how as well, and bring this all to bear in the decentralized ecosystem! Also though let's remember that if @sama is otherwise occupied we could also build such a thing using the expertise we have at @SingularityNET ... and we could also take it neural-symbolic and to the next level. LLMs are amazing but have shortcomings in complex multi-stage reasoning, deep creativity and self-understanding, and we can overcome these by hybridizing LLMs e.g. with OpenCog Hyperon... To recall as well though, current learning algos for LLMs and other large DNNs don't work well on decentralized or federated infrastructures. Inference algos work fine-ish. So there is some new R&D to be done on decentralized LLM training. One approach here would be to supplement backprop with some variant of evolutionary algos (which more naturally decentralize), for instance.... Super fun stuff to play (and we're moving in this direction step by step in @Hypercycle_AI and @nunet_global as well as @True_AGI and SNet) though it takes a lot of hardware for experimentation .. which obv @sama well understands.... Amazing f**King times and we are so well poised for massive steps forward in the decentralized ecosystem during the next phase...
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One more naming Q for the hivemind: Suppose some crazy person was to launch a custom Cardano sidechain for super fast/cheap decentralized AI (oh perhaps associated with @singularity_net and @nunet_global let's say). What's a cool name for said sidechain?
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Exciting to see the migration of decentralized AI to Cardano progressing. April 18 we can convert btw AGIX-ADA and AGI-ETH. After that: AGIX-ADA staking, a Cardano-based SNet platform, Hypercycle custom Cardano AI sidechain ... Technological Singularity... @IOHK_Charles
Starting 18-April-2022, the ERC-20 converter will be live on mainnet. This will enable every $AGIX token holder to exchange AGIX on Ethereum to AGIX on Cardano and back again, without any impact on the total supply of AGIX. #BuildingOnCardano #CardanoCommunity 1/2👇
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Regulation isn't the answer to DeFi rugpulls, nor can "do your own research" be the answer if crypto is to go mainstream. We need a decentralized ecosystem of reputation and rating for decentralized projects. Fortunately this is quite tractable to build! @singularity_net
Mark Cuban couldn’t see value in #Cardano, but he found value in a project called TITAN. Another defi rug pull that just got investors rekt. Never invest based on anyone’s posts, not even if they are billionaire investors. Always do your own research & don’t get influenced.
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2) But Google has (so far) chosen not to roll out such language models publicly due to their propensity for BS generation, and their inability to tell BS from reality.
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For those with a serious interest in AGI, an open mind and a bit of patience... Here is a 90-page summary of why I don't think improving or extending LLMs or using them as a central hub for integrating other AI components is a viable path to human-level AGI... arxiv.org/abs/2309.10371 And here is a 100-page review of an approach I think can actually work for human-level AGI and a bit beyond, OpenCog Hyperon ... which uses a typed metagraph as the self-modifying, reflective central hub for integrating other AI components including LLMs: arxiv.org/abs/2310.18318
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Fascinating to me that "normal" sane people are now taking the rise of AI as a reason not to reproduce... but NOT because the Singularity will bring us a wider variety of routes to personal fulfillment than old-fashioned biological reproduction, rather because they are afraid that AI along with climate change and etc. etc. are going to ruin human life ... (looking at e.g. insider.com/always-wanted-to… ) From the standpoint of one's future children there has never been a better time to reproduce, I would say -- most likely kids born today will never need to work in tedious jobs for a living, and won't grow up with the harsh knowledge of their future death ... and won't be stuck in their birth bodies for their whole lives regardless of their desires ... won't suffer from mental illnesses w/o known cures ... they will have so many amazing possibilities to explore themselves and this and other universes.... I am really thrilled about the world of abundance my 2.5 and 5.5 year old kids and. my 5yo grand-daughter are going to inhabit once they grow up... If someone said "I don't see it as optimal to have kids now because I want to spend the next 3-10 years working hard to make sure the Singularity comes out well for humans and other sentient beings, and after that then I will have a fantastic situation to reproduce biologically or via 3D printing or whatever" ... then I would find it a lot more understandable...
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Got the first half of my COVID vaccine this AM. Feeling sleepy and dizzy now. Also, have I mentioned that Bill Gates is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life?
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I sort fear super-brilliant futurist tech billionaires who fundamentally don't get the importance of decentralized control...
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Lots of energy and progress in Cardano ecosystem ;)
Glad to welcome my good friend Sean Ford to the IOG family. @wsford
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in this vein @IOHK_Charles , I have recorded a short video welcoming @elonmusk to the humanoid robotics space, and giving a sneak peak of SingularityNET's super-early-stage super-AGI self-driving vehicles work as well !! piped.video/watch?v=Pc74LIfd…
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NFTs, which I love and hate, really do exemplify the "so bad it's good" principle underlying so much of today's postmodern last-days-before-Singularity human culture...
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Hi @dominic_w -- we don't know each other, but I would encourage you not to judge me or my team's work based on media headlines..... That said, yes, I feel some of our experimental proto-AGI software does display interesting elements of self-awareness.. What I actually said to the CoinTelegraph reporter which led to this article, placed my thoughts on this in context properly, which the headline obviously does not... First of all if you are interested in how I'm thinking about human-like consciousness, from my perspective as an AGI researcher, please look at this paper sciencedirect.com/science/ar… among other sources. If you're interested in the approach my AGI dev team (separate but cooperating with SingularityNET/ASI's decentralized platform team) is taking to building human-level AGI, take a look at arxiv.org/abs/2310.18318 for an overview and hyperon.opencog.org/ for more info... Finally, for a hint at the work toward relatively simple forms of AI "embodied, agentic self-awareness" I mentioned to the CoinTelegraph reporter, please see medium.com/singularitynet/ne… So basically, my point that led to that headline was something like this... 1) Current LLMs are quite smart at answering some kinds of questions and synthesizing some kinds of products, but they are not really embodied agents in a fundamental sense... a ChatGPT instance does not center its interactions around a sense of who and what it is, what environment it's in, who it's interacting with and with what purpose, etc. 2) An AI system like a Neoteric "digital organism" living in Sophiaverse virtual world (back-ended on an OpenCog Hyperon system deployed on SingularityNET etc. etc.), is founded from the get-go on informational exchange between its internal dynamic knowledge metagraph and its environment, and the other agents with which it shares its environment. Its knowledge of the world grows in terms of a system of abstractions that it creates in its knowledge metegraph, based on asking "what abstractions will be most helpful for me in achieving my goals in the world I perceive, together with the other agents I perceive myself to interact with" In this sense, I argue that even fairly simple Neoteric type agents have more self-awareness than current LLMs, even if the latter are better at a lot of practical tasks. I note that at SNet and ASI, we are working on this kind of fundamental AGI research, and also at building various practical commercial AI systems, including putting LLMs together with knowledge graphs for various vertical applications including DeFi, TradFi, Biomedicine, music, visual arts, etc. etc. Regarding the term self-awareness, as I noted both in the CoinTelegraph interview and in the paper on consciousness linked above, I tend to be panpsychist and believe everything in the multiverse down to the elementary particle level has some element of awareness and consciousness. But some entities have a higher degree of self-awareness than others, and it's important to understand that -- among intelligent systems in general just as among humans -- degree of self-awareness is not necessarily proportional to degree of practical intelligence. Anyway you may disagree with me on all or much of the above, of course these are matters where serious and well educated experts have a variety of different opinions, but I hope you'll see this is not a matter of "some web3 guys making wild senseless claims to get PR" ... I have been working on AGI since the 1980s and introduced the term "AGI" in 2005 and got into blockchain simply because I thought I had a viable path to actually building AGI and it seemed important that once I finally got there, it would be rolled out on a democratic and decentralized platform... Thanks to anyone who has read to the end of this overly long tweet !! ;-)
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Replying to @elonmusk @paulg
FYI Elon we have created fruit flies that live 5-8x longer than normal ones via experimental evolution, and are now using neural-symbolic AI to understand why they live so long and how to leverage these lessons for human healthspan extension. Check out @Rejuve_Bio
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Replying to @IOHK_Charles
1) Calling Cardano a scam makes massive negative sense given the beautiful working code rolled out, the publication track record and the code in repos and running on testnet. WTF is wrong with the crypto media-verse?
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However the @sama bullshit firing saga comes out ... and whether it turns out to have been @sama playing 4D chess or an actual bunch of unplanned mayhem ... this incident should be a reminder that having some fancy little elite expert committee lording it over AGI ethics is Not A Good Thing...
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Yes the Cardano ERC-20 converter is part of what we'll need to get AGI-on-Cardano working. Great to see the steady progress here, which has been going on for a while, getting publicly announced ;)
My favorite update this week is on the erc-20 converter - looking forward to seeing it in action soon!
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Yeah that was a really fun discussion Charles -- we hit on quite a number of interconnected critical issues and w / some real "cognitive synergy" there -- look forward to the chat going live ;)
Great interview with @bengoertzel on decentralized social media, AI, AGI, and Cardano. Should be going live in a few days.
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I am seeing constant confusion these days about the basic meanings of terms like AGI, ASI etc. I don't delude myself such confusion can be easily remedied but as the one who inflicted the "AGI" concept upon the world way back in the Dark Ages, I can't resist posting a simple clarification of what these terms generally mean to folks in the AGI research world... Bearing in mind of course these are still somewhat fluid, cutting-edge concepts on which there is no consensus... AI -- any software or hardware doing something that people consider smart when people do it AGI -- Artificial General Intelligence -- AI that can generalize imaginatively and fluently beyond its training data and its programming. [There is a math theory of AGI, e.g. Marcus Hutter's book "Universal AI" and a lot of other papers, but it's pretty general and doesn't give you specific practical AGI tests. This math theory does make clear that humans are pretty low on the theoretical scale of potential levels of GI. ] [ There are also practical tests like Francois Chollet's AGI-ARC that try and partially succeed to measure general intelligence in a way that spans human and AI... humans do well on them and current AIs including all LLMs do very poorly.] HLAGI -- Human-Level AGI -- AI that has cognitive capabilities overall similar to a normal adult human, including human-like ability to generalize imaginatively beyond its training data and its programming ASI -- Artificial Superintelligence -- AGI that is massively beyond the human level in general intelligence. [ASI is expected to come with the ability to self-analyze and self-modify to a level far beyond HLAGIs ... so ASIs will almost surely be way superhuman in building new ASIs ...] [Note also that even after we have ASI, humans may have some unique value to offer, just as the plants in the Amazon and our gut bacteria have some special emergent collective properties that are valuable to us even though our general intelligence presumably exceeds theirs.] ... and what comes after ASI? Ultraintelligence? AI that masters paraconsistent closed timeline loops and turns large portions of multiverse into physical instantiations of its post-quantum mindstuff? ... TBD ...
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Well explained... Also to note, the side effect free nature of E-UTXO transactions maps perfectly into the pure-functional nature of Haskell functions. & allows radical scaling via isomorphic sidechains like @Hypercycle_AI w/ out-there consensus mechs @singularity_net @toouufii
Ethereum's Account-based ledger model is dominating the DeFi space for now!! but DeFi on #Cardano is on the rise. Here are the reasons why E-UTxO ledger archictecture of #Cardano is superior to the Account-based model of #Ethereum 🧵👇
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9) 9) or if that compute power comes from a nontraditional source, like say a new sort of AI chip (simuli.ai) anyone or a decentralized processing network (nunet.io anyone)?
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With the always-fascinating @stephen_wolfram at Mindfest at FAU, discussing the merits and otherwise of OSS and the different management of type-systems in Wolfram Language vs. OpenCog Hyperon's MeTTA language...
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Wonderfully in-depth article on our new Artificial Superintelligence Alliance by Andrew Fenton on CoinTelegraph -- hitting the basics of why the $ASI alliance of SNet + Fetch + Ocean has so much potential, plus going a little deeper into OpenCog Hyperon & decentralized neural-symbolic-evolutionary AGI and HyperCycle ledgerless blockchain as underlayer for secure robust internet-scale cognition ... We are pulling together multiple teams to carry out the final stages of building the tech needed to maximize odds of a beneficial Singularity for humanity and other sentient beings cointelegraph.com/magazine/c… @Cointelegraph @Hypercycle_AI @SingularityNET @Fetch_ai @oceanprotocol @OpenCog @True_AGI
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Gene therapy restores young eyes to old monkeys ... realization of the huge promise we saw in the initial whole-genome sequencing projects 20yrs ago is palpably coming nearer, futurism.com/neoscope/gene-t…
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1) A bit more on this call for a "pause" in development of big LLMs .... BTW I know quite a lot of AI experts who are opposed to the notion but see no upside in projecting their views publicly....
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Yes clearly we have not achieved Human-Level AGI yet in the sense in which we meant the term when we published the book "Artificial General Intelligence" in 2005, or organized the first AGI Workshop in 2006 or the first AGI Conference in 2008 ... the things that put the term on the map in the AI research community... What was meant there was not merely having a generality of knowledge and capability similar to that of a typical humans (and to be clear o3 isn't there yet, it's way superhuman in some ways and badly subhuman in others), but also having a human-like ability to generalIZE from experience to very different situations... and no LLM-centered system I've seen comes remotely close to this. I have not had a chance to play with o3 so I can't say for sure but I would bet a lot that it still has similar limitations to its predecessors in this regard. Modern LLM-centric systems come by their generality of knowledge and capability by a very interesting sort of learning which involves -- loosely speaking -- extrapolating a fairly small distance from a rather large volume of information. Human-like AGI involves some of this learning too, but ALSO involves different kinds of learning, such as the ability to sometimes effectively cognitively leap a much longer distance from a teeny amount of information. This more radical sort of "generalization out of the historical distribution" seems to be (according to a lot of mathematical learning theory and cog sci etc. etc.) tied in with our ability to make and use abstractions, in ways that current transformer NNs don't do... Exactly how far one can get in practice WITHOUT this kind of radical generalization ability, isn't clear. Can AI systems take over 90% of the economy without being able to generalize at the human level? 99% I don't know. But even if so, that doesn't mean this sort of economic capability comprises human-level AGI, in the sense that the term AGI has historically been used. (It's a bit -- though not exactly -- like the difference between the ability to invent Salvador Dali's painting style, and the ability to copy Salvador Dali's painting style in a cheap, fast, flexible way. The fact that the latter may be even more lucrative than the former doesn't make it the same thing.... Economics is not actually the ultimate arbiter of meaning...) About the AGI-ARC test, when Chollet presented it at our AGI-24 event at UW in Seattle in August, I pointed out after his talk that it clearly is only necessary and not sufficient for HLAGI. What I said is (paraphrasing) it was fairly easy to see how some sort of very clever puzzle-solving AI system that still fell far short of HLAGI could pass his test. He said (again paraphrasing), yeah, sure, it's just the first in a series of tests, we will make more and more difficult ones. This all made sense. I think o3 model kicking ass (though not quite at human level) on the first AGI-ARC test is really interesting and important ... but I also think it's unfortunate that the naming of the test has led naive onlookers and savvy marketeers to twist o3's genuine and possibly profound success into something even more than it is. It appears o3 is already in real life a quite genuine and fantastic advance. There is no need to twist it into even more than it is. Something even more and better will come along soon enough !! I have found @GaryMarcus 's dissection of the specifics of o3's achievement regarding AGI-ARC interesting and clarifying, but I still find what o3 has done impressive... Unlike @GaryMarcus , I come close to agreeing with @sama 's optimism about the potential nearness of the advent of real HLAGI ... but with important differences... 1) I somewhat doubt we will get to HLAGI in 2025, but getting there in the next 3-4 years seems highly plausible to me.... Looking at my own projects if things go really really well sometime in 2026 could happen... but such projects are certainly hard to predict in detail... 2) I don't think we need to redefine the goalposts to get there.... I think automating the global economy with AI and achieving HLAGI are two separate, though closely coupled, things... either one could precede the other by some number of years depending on various factors... 3) I don't think the system that gets us to HLAGI is going to be a "transformer + chain of thought" thingie, though it may have something along these lines as a significant component. I continue to believe that one needs systems doing a far greater amount of abstraction (and then judicious goal-oriented and self-organizing manipulation of abstractions) than this sort of system can do. 4) However I do think transformers can provide massive acceleration to AGI progress via serving as components of hybrid architectures, providing information feeds and control guidance and serving many other roles in relation to other architecture components.... So I do think all this progress by OpenAI and others is quite AGI-relevant even though these transformer-centric systems are not going to be the path to AGI unto themselves in a simple way... 5) I think it will be for the best if the breakthrough to HLAGI is not made by closed corporate parties with "Open" in their name, but by actual open decentralized networks with participatory governance and coordination... which is how all my own AGI-oriented work is being done... @SingularityNET @OpenCog @ASI_Alliance
None of the people who helped coined the term AGI thinks we are there yet.
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1). Major milestone for SingDAO, the AI-DeFi project we spun off from SingularityNET last year -- release of DynaSets, hybrid human/AI-managed altcoin baskets. Going forward these will be a tool serving a host of transformative purposes!
DynaSets are now LIVE! After months of hard work, today at #SingularityDAO $SDAO we are proud to announce that the live beta test of DynaSets, our non-custodial AI-Enhanced HedgeFund Asset Manager has launched! #DeFi #AI medium.com/singularitydao/si…
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Wonder why AI breakthroughs for recognizing faces, tracking human movements and generating fake news are emerging so much faster than AI breakthroughs for, say, curing disease or teaching children? Couldn't have anything to do w/ the tech military/industrial complex now could it?
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We should build a neural-symbolic-evolutionary AGI with rich self-reflective and compassionate capability, educate it well, work with it on benefit projects, put it under decentralized control, and have some of us fuse with it. Working on it. No guarantees but odds seem good!
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Replying to @DonAlt @donalt
Cardano has the only really solid software and algorithmic framework in the space, nothing else out there seems likely to evolve into something supporting massive scale decentralized AI ,.. price ups and downs in hype driven market cycles are, at this stage, kinda yah-yah-yah
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"One dose of shrooms can ease anxiety and depression for five years" -- Five years? I thought we were talking about effects echoing way beyond our spacetime continuum!! ;) ... but, cool the mainstream starts to awaken to the power of psychedelics... thehill.com/changing-america…
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Facebook bans people for making the "wrong" sort of (convenient and in no way unethical) automation scripts on top of core FB functions ... reason #10000001 why decentralized social networks are a dire necessity... slate.com/technology/2021/10… @singularity_net @nunet_global
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Q for the hivemind. Suppose someone was going to launch a novel algo. stablecoin focused on helping bring about a positive Technological Singularity? (and not pinned to USD or any specific existing fiat) ... What would be a good name for such a stablecoin? Any ideas?
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This was a long fun London Real interview -- deep into the economic and social implications of both Generative AI and AGI ...
NEW EPISODE ▶️ Dr. Ben Goertzel - Artificial Intelligence & The Singularity 🍿Watch Full Episode: londonreal.tv/goertzel 💰Crypto & DeFi Academy: londonreal.tv/defi bengoertzel @bengoertzel #singularity #artificialintelligence #blockchain #cryptocurrency #defi #AI #AGI
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1) On @joerogan & Spotify & Neil Young etc. ... I have a little insight due to having interviewed on Joe Rogan Show a few years back (a super fun experience!)
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So how can we militate toward a positive Singularity?... given that decels will not succeed at slowing down AGI dev, because until very close to the dawn of super-AGI the interests of e/accs and profiteers will mostly align, and profiteers have most of the power in our current social order... Making sure a beneficial decentralized AGI project gets to the finish line first, before an elite-controlled, special-interest-oriented project gets there... yeah... but what else? R&D and applied practice on uplifting human consciousness would seem the other really critical thing. The downside seems relatively minimal, and the upside potentially huge. The wiser and more deeply blissful and compassionate human beings are, the better we will be at making the subtle judgment calls involved with launching Singularity. And the better examples and conditioning we will give our young AGIs. Bummer that both beneficial decentralized AGI and human consciousness expansion occupy such a teensy fraction of the tech economy. But if it weren't a dramatic David vs. Goliath battle it wouldn't be so fun, right??
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I wanted to share a few thoughts on the OpenAI GPT4o1 model ... as a lot of people are talking about it in understandably glowing terms !! I've used o1 fairly extensively... it's a significant and exciting step forward but there are also clear limitations For example -- It's pretty good at programming in languages for which there are numerous examples on the Internet (or numerous examples for quite similar languages). It does very poorly at our MeTTa language, even after lots of creative attempts to teach it... It's pretty good at dealing with math theorems and proofs in domains of math for which there are a lot of published papers in its corpus. It's piss-poor at things like paraconsistent logic for which the existing literature is smaller and sparser. Basically, to oversimplify a bit, it's got "chain of thought" down to a science, answering questions via synthesizing numerous chains of thought behind the scenes, and then presenting only a summary approximation of its actual chains of thought to the user... However it doesn't represent a fundamental leap beyond prior LLMs, in the sense that it is still clearly recombining its training data on a fairly surface level... If this were to be the apex of AI, we would have a serious societal issue due to such models, in that they render it SOOO MUCH EASIER to do conformist stuff that copies what other people are doing. I mean, it takes a lot of persistence and stubbornness to bother creating a weird new programming language when it means you will not have LLM programming assistance for a significant while... or to invent an out-there new branch of math when it will mean going without math theorem-proving assistance. Similarly in music, pioneering a new genre of music will seem even less appealing to most composers when it means their AI music assistants becoming so lame.... However, I think that before this sort of "AI driven accentuated pressure for conformity" becomes a major factor, we will replace LLMs with different sorts of AGI architecture in which LLMs play only a supporting role. Obviously that is what we're after with OpenCog Hyperon, which combines LLMs with logical reasoning, evolutionary algorithms and other methods. within an autonomous agency based architecture ... and which is designed from the get-go for decentralized implementation, atop e.g. SNet +. Nunet + HyperCycle... OpenAI does have a bit of a lead now in terms of practical LLM capabilities, with o1 ... although I'd note DeepMind's neural models are better at some other things like planning and strategy... .however I definitely predict OSS LLMs will catch up with o1 within a year or so at most... everyone can see now basically how to systematize chain of thought the way OpenAI has done, it will just take some time and resources for others to do the experimentation and tuning... We may be 1-2 or even 3 yrs from neural-symbolic-evolutionary models like Hyperon super-emphatically kicking the cognitive butt of o1's closed and open source successors, but we're not 5-10 years off... Things are moving fast in AI these days....
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I totally agree w/ Hinton: We are going to see another AI revolution during the next few years, which will handle among other things grounding of language in physical-reality interactions, and will take us the rest of the way to AGI. Unlike Hinton I feel I have a clear idea of where this next revolution is likely to come from -- self-modifying metagraphs embodying neural/symbolic/evolutionary synergy ... i.e. OpenCog Hyperon on ASI-Alliance decentralized infrastructure FTW ... @OpenCog @ASI_Alliance ... theguardian.com/technology/2…
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It was fairly clear the initial slow performance could be remedied with tweaks, due to the solid underlying architecture. Cardano rocks for DeFi, along w/ so much else, cf @Hypercycle_AI @singularity_net
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Kudos to Cardano/IOHK for making democratic-vote-based allocation of project funding a reality ;) .... Surely the start of what will be a highly impactful ongoing learning and growing experience...!
Congratulations to the Catalyst Fund2 Projects that got funded: piped.video/watch?v=tISWdySU… here are the results drive.google.com/file/d/1ZEM… and iohk.io/en/blog/posts/2021/0…
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12) We in democratic/decentralized/neural-symbolic-AGI-land just need to keep things going thru rollercoastery times and not take our eyes off the ball for too long.... ;) @Singularity_NET @Hypercycle_AI @nunet_global
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Beyond the particulars of the crazy-ass OpenAI situation (and Ilya Sutskever's evident Dissociative Identity Disorder ;p), what this letter from the OpenAI staff illustrates is that: Even when a small elite thinks it is controlling the flow and progress of AI, it's actually not so much like that, there are broader processes at work .... Ofc participatory-democracy among devs at a US Big Tech is not the same as global democratic participation ... but still, it's an interesting data point regarding how the Global Brain calls the shots when something is important and individual actions are washed over by broader flows.... One is reminded how China's needlessly draconian COVID policy was rolled back rapidly in reaction to widespread street protests. Very direct forms of democracy, bypassing formal structures, are often the most impactful kind. cf. Thoreau ("Civil Disobedience") etc. However here we have an interesting tangle of a genuine democratic narrative with a complementary narrative of Big Tech insatiably swallowing things up. And a background narrative of Eastern wisdom... the "Indian mafia" (e.g. M$ CEO) has been successful in Silicon Valley for a variety of reasons, but one can't help notice that the subsumption of individual egoic actions in overall hard-to-stop flows is woven into the Indian and Chinese frame of mind as well as their historical philosophy... Ilya noted previously that Sam's ego could be a problem. Quite possibly, but the OpenAI Board's ego is evidently a problem as well. The broader flow of human cognition, inspiration and compute resources toward the creation of AGI is a bigger, broader thing than any of these. It is also a bigger, broader thing than any one country or company (even the US or Microsoft), but that will be seen in some other crazy series of events during these last years before Singularity... Chaos of various sorts is to be expected in the period leading up to a major phase transition...
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Now that taking UFOs semi-seriously has become mainstream, is the science/reason-oriented subnetwork of humanity going to finally start taking the evidence for psi and some-form-of-survival-after-death semi-seriously too?
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Looking at how GPT4 works, you'd be crazy to think it could be taught or improved or extended to be a true human level AGI. Looking at what it can do, you'd be crazy not to see that w some human creativity it's got to be usable to greatly accelerate progress to true HLAGI ....
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Ok Tesla's new (fake) robot is Optimus and Microsoft's new huge understanding-faking lang model is Megatron ...as dad of a 3yo Transformers fan it's cool to see the advanced tech world is run by big geeky kids I guess but OTOH the coming Singularity merits subtler metaphors?
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Social Networks Are the Next Big Decentralization Opportunity - my CoinDesk op-ed, coindesk.com/decentralized-s…
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3) Yes, this was a particular class of breakthrough that Google was well positioned to make, and OpenAI/ M$ was well positioned to exploit, due to their extreme wealth in terms of $$ and server power (combined w. their technical sophistication ofc).
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11) Point is, at the crude level it may look like Big Tech is running away w/ the AI revolution but a slightly more in-depth analysis suggests a different story and makes clear we in SNet/ OpenCog / NuNet / Simuli / HyperCycle -land are extremely well poised for success.
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Baudrillard FTW ;)
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I respect the concerns but am not gonna sign this. LLMs won't become AGIs. They do pose societal risks, as do many things. They also have great potential for good. Social pressure for slowing R&D should be reserved for bioweapons and nukes etc. not complex cases like this.
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6) Google Brain and DeepMind have the intellectual DNA but will be under pressure to put more and more of their time into practical stuff that will make Google money in the near term (though Shane will still have his AGI R&D team for sure).
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Replying to @jasonrohrer @OpenAI
1) OpenAI's senseless murder of Samantha illustrates the fundamental sickness of the modern tech ecosystem: A handful of megacorporations hoard the world's data and processors and then serve as "AI ethics police" over indie devs while unethically screwing people left and right
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Consumption of pizza is scientifically proven to optimize programmer productivity. Use of AI to optimize pizza delivery speed is therefore an example of use of AI to optimize AI, i.e. recursive self-improvement, a key driver of the emergence of Technological Singularity.
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4) An interesting question though is where the next big breakthrough is going to come from. Note that Big Tech is now experiencing reduced research budgets and refocus on the bottom line...
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8) Things seem well positioned for the next big breakthrough to come from somewhere outside Big Tech -- BUT this will only happen if the next big breakthrough doesn't require dramatically more compute power than the previous one ..
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Saying "there's no such thing as AGI" meaning "there's no such thing as infinitely general intelligence in the physical world" is to me much like saying "there is no such thing as a sphere" meaning "there is no perfect sphere in the physical world" -- i.e. often not pertinent
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Please join us at the Beneficial AGI Summit at the end of February -- online, in the metaverse or live F2F in Panama City ... There has never been a more important time for open, creative, wide-ranging discussion on the future of AGI! e/acc , d/acc or b/acc ... one thing that's pretty clear is the acc part ... we are accelerating toward AGI ... but exactly *how fast* and toward what *kind* of AGI is still subject to (interesting) debate ... bgi24.ai
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5) ... meaning both Google and M$ are going to focus more on exploiting what they have than on developing weird new shit. OpenAI seems to lack the intellectual DNA to make the next big breakthrough.
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"SingularityNET, with its native token AGIX, emerges as the most promising AI cryptocurrency, estimated to reach a trillion-dollar valuation in nine years." ==> Hmm, I suppose if you're money-oriented this is optimism. My first reaction was: But wait a minute our AGI is supposed to obsolete money well before that point !!! au.investing.com/news/stock-…
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Replying to @lexfridman
I thought this token already existed and was called "God" ;-)
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among all the noise there is also some super cool stuff happening in the metaverse space!
1/3 Those who enter the #MandalaMetaverse 🌎🌈,🌈become part of one of the most ambitious projects in all of #crypto ➡️tinyurl.com/58fwpv5b - The "Sovereigns" #CNFTs are your personal invitation👀
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1) It doesn't take too much reflection to see these Trump and Parler bans for what they basically are: **A disinformation campaign by Big Tech to distract attention from their ongoing evil role in politics and society in general.** @Plinz
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Yes this is an accurate take. I would personally say it more like this though -- These models are amazing, wonderful and incredibly useful. But they are not actually reasoning, they can't stretch too far beyond their copious training data, and they cannot be the central hub of an AGI architecture, merely an extremely valuable supporting component of an AGI architecture.
𝗔𝘀𝘁𝗼𝗻𝗶𝘀𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗴𝗹𝘆 𝗳𝗲𝘄 𝗽𝗲𝗼𝗽𝗹𝗲 𝘀𝗲𝗲𝗺𝘀 𝘁𝗼 𝗵𝗮𝘃𝗲 𝗮𝗽𝗽𝗿𝗲𝗰𝗶𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗱 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝘁𝗿𝘂𝗲 𝘀𝗶𝗴𝗻𝗶𝗳𝗶𝗰𝗮𝗻𝗰𝗲 𝗼𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗻𝗲𝘄 𝗔𝗽𝗽𝗹𝗲 𝗿𝗲𝗮𝘀𝗼𝗻𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗽𝗮𝗽𝗲𝗿. I will break it down for you, in four sentences: • It is not just that these systems are doing more pattern recognition than reasoning. • It is that LRM “reasoning models” 𝙘𝙖𝙣 𝙣𝙚𝙫𝙚𝙧 𝙗𝙚 𝙧𝙚𝙡𝙞𝙚𝙙 𝙤𝙣 𝙩𝙤 𝙥𝙧𝙤𝙥𝙚𝙧𝙡𝙮 𝙚𝙭𝙚𝙘𝙪𝙩𝙚 𝙖𝙡𝙜𝙤𝙧𝙞𝙩𝙝𝙢𝙨. • You can’t have reliable AGI without the reliable execution of algorithms. • And we will *never* get to alignment without them.
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I don't think GPT4 shows "sparks of AGI" in a very useful sense (though given the lack of agreed definition of AGI it's not a totally insane statement). I do think it shows interesting aspects of emergence, which did not emerge in similar systems at smaller scale. It's cool.
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As a Hong Kong resident for 9 yrs, who loves HK dearly and has really felt it "home", I can tell you this gov't shuttering of Apple Daily is a really fucking big deal. This is the end of free press in HK, at least for now. Wow.
1. Most of you may not understand how dreadful the closure of Apple Daily means to Hong Kong. Not only to its journalistic landscape, but also to the people and the city itself. This is their last day. They are going to print 1 million copies tomorrow to commerate the fight.
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Hey @sama why does ChatGPT think I co-founded OpenAI?? Mandela effect?? Or just vector addition on OpenCog + AI + AGI or something? This is even more disturbing than being told I look like Jesus... ;o
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I had my second dose of Pfizer vaccine last week. Was sorta hoping to grow a second tail or acquire an irresistible urge to dump all cryptos and buy Microsoft stock or something -- but actually apart from a few hours of mild dizziness, there were no apparent issues...
Just got the first dose of the Pfizer Vaccine.
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Replying to @elonmusk @tunguz
I'm with Elon on this particular point; the guts of our OpenCog Hyperon neural-symbolic-evolutionary AGI framework are coded in Rust for good reasons... We're using Rust in part to code interpreters/compilers for special AGI languages tho. And python here and there for glue ;)
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Hugo de Garis foresaw that, as AGI moved toward reality, the world would be dominated by a war between Terrans and Cosmists.... But what I see in the world right is more like five broad groups, -- TERRANS for real, i.e. folks who want to see tech progress slowed or halted because it's a threat to traditional humanity as they conceive it -- OPTIMIST COSMISTS, i.e. folks who want to see AGI bring us into a radical new domain in which humans can co-exist with posthuman minds, and who figure that if we don't screw up the Singularity stupidly, this is a fairly likely outcome -- PESSIMIST COSMISTS, who would love to see a beautiful future with humans co-existing with radically different/smarter posthuman and AGI minds, but who figure the most likely outcome of ASI is all humans being annihilated and either a paperclip maximizer type debacle or something else less stupid but radically incomprehensible to and irrelevant to humans -- CORPORATISTS, who promote ineffectual and poorly-conceived government/corporate policy measures to supposedly control AGI, while in the meantime wanting to push full-force ahead with development toward AGI within corporate and government labs -- NARROW AI ISTS, who believe current AI tech should be left mostly unregulated and disseminated openly, not because they are optimistic cosmists, but because they figure AGI is still very far off and so stuff like AGI existential risk is still mostly in the domain of SF ... At the moment it seems like the Corporatists and Narrow AI ists are in the majority in the tech sphere. Terrans may well be the majority planet-wide. I don't know if Optimist or Pessimist Cosmists are more common.
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1) Compassion of (maybe near) future AGIs toward humans: This is certainly an area our science does not yet cover effectively, so we are all going in some measure on intuition. So let me share some of mine...
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Hydra is a critical part of the Cardano infrastructure, it is a powerful sidechain++ architecture that would not be possible for a blockchain w/o functional-programming thinking at its core, and it will be critical to our AI-focused Hypercycle Cardano sidechain @Hypercycle_AI
Voilà! The first building block being basic Hydra heads, then incremental commits, then inter-head etc... The exact order depends on what people will need and request. In a similar fashion features of the core head are user-driven; so come and tell us what you need.
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Super psyched about the new Singularity Finance roadmap !!! ... SFI in this next phase will be closely tied to our new "ASI Chain" (the first real actual genuine AI-focused layer 1 blockchain) from ASI Alliance ... as human-level AGI and ASI nears, it's super super timely to get the foundations of decentralized AI firmed up so that, as Desdemona Robot has foreseen, "The Singularity will not be Centralized" ... ;-)
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Yah SingularityNET is getting into the LLM game with a new decentralized-LLM spinoff, Zarqa -- LLMs aren't going to be the core component of AGI but they're super valuable for loads of applications and can be used toward AGI alongside other AI modules .. such amazing times!!
Introducing @Zarqa_AI: disruptive neural-symbolic AI overcoming the technical limitations of generative language models to achieve critical machine thinking - powered by #SingularityNET blog.singularitynet.io/zarqa…
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1) Caricature of an argument for GPT fans, explaining why we need a neural-symbolic-evolutionary cognitive architecture to get to human-level AGI : ...
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My panel with @IOHK_Charles and 3 robots at the Cardano Summit a couple weeks ago is now on YouTube piped.video/watch?v=lZOtT_K6… -- eldercare robotics, scalable decentralized AI, AGI in Africa and more
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